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Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I just want h1 to prove that Thanos' chair is able to open portals to teleport his foes away, and that it's what he needs to do so.

Full disclosure, it was on CBR.

Essentially, I did a similar thing in a GL thread. I knew something the other guy didn't know about Kyle Rayner, and was stringing him along as he arrogantly insisted. Kyle couldn't do the thing. Then Pendaran swoops in and gives the example I was thinking of, just like happened to you and H1. I say "I know that, but I wanted to see if HE knows it."

Pendy reports to Watcher, Watcher perma bans.

In my defense, this may have actually been an unjust ban for a change, as this is the period CBR started banning EVERYONE. I mean ALL regulars. For any little thing.

I think the board owner wanted to clean house to go mainstream, and keep a better class of debate. I also suspect Pendaran and Watcher are the same guy, as Watcher literally came on Pendaran's side every single time, yet never warned him for any reason.

Wouldn't surprise me if the site owner himself was Pendaran, since he never came to this auxiliary board the regs sets up, in spite of being their alleged friend.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Shhh Ambient. Besides, I wanted it purely to be specifically limited to opening portal gates, I don't want h1 to handwave your scans away and try and weasel his way out of it.

He is claiming Thanos' chair can open portals gates; I am asking him to prove this. We don't give special attributes to things without proof (as per his posts).

For h1, I know he gets confused with multiple posts.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I just want h1 to prove that Thanos' chair is able to open portals to teleport his foes away, and that it's what he needs to do so.

Why do I have to?
The possibility that Thanos used the chair is enough.
He is shown extending a finger (as in touching a specific area of hand rest) to activate the portal.
He has never been shown to open portals on his own power.

Originally posted by Ambient

The few times his done so without chair.

The first scan is inconclusive (what's the issue number).
The following scans are Thanos teleporting, not opening portals where someone (not him) is able to run through.

The argument is that Thanos (using only his own power or current standard equipment) can open portals exactly like how he did against Gladiator.

Originally posted by Smurph
😂

h1 101: frame everything possible as something somebody else has to prove. Make a statement and get asked for proof? Just wave your hand and say "no"

Saint originally claimed that Thanos can bfr Mangog exactly like he did Gladiator. Thanos was in his chair when he did that. I asked Saint to prove that Thanos can do that WITHOUT his chair (or that Thanos did it without using the chair).

So why do you troll me? Just read the entire exchange first.

So if the possibility that the chair can open portals is all that's needed, then the possibility that Thanos does not need said chair is all that's needed 😂

You are giving the chair special attributes without proof.

Moreover, your arrogance is once again showing. Thanos has never been shown to open portals under his own power - to your limited knowledge .

You make statements as if you have read every Thanos comic. Have you?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
So if the possibility that the chair can open portals is all that's needed, then the possibility that Thanos does not need said chair is all that's needed 😂

You are giving the chair special attributes without proof.

In order for a character to be able to do something in a forum you must have conclusive on panel proof, not speculation.

Lol at another fallacy by you. Invalidating someone else's claim DOES NOT valid yours.

Originally posted by h1a8
In order for a character to be able to do something in a forum you must have conclusive on panel proof, not speculation.

Lol at another fallacy by you. Invalidating someone else's claim DOES NOT valid yours.

So where is your conclusive proof that the chair opens portals? You made the initial claim, that the chair is needed.

So validate your own claims before attempting to invalidate others 😂 is that not a fallacy from you?

I stated that Thanos appears to be touching (like we do using cell phones) a specific area of the chair rest with an extented finger.
Everyone person who read the comic thought that Thanos used the chair. You are now just trolling to save face.
Also

Originally posted by h1a8
Invalidating someone else's claim DOES NOT valid yours.

Originally posted by h1a8
I stated that Thanos appears to be touching (like we do using cell phones) a specific area of the chair rest with an extented finger.

Also

How is that conclusive proof?

And again:
Validate your own claims before attempting to invalidate mine. Prove -conclusively- that the chair opens portals.

Edit: as for your edit, so? Do YOU go along with the concensus opinion?
Edit edit: but let's lay our cards on the table. Shall we have a wager on this? You've done nothing but accuse me of trolling, whilst being adamant that Thanos has NEVER been shown to open portals like as he did against Gladiator, without his chair.

As you are so confident that you are right, that you know the truth, and I am so confident that I am right, what shall we bet?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
How is that conclusive proof?

And again:
Validate your own claims before attempting to invalidate mine. Prove -conclusively- that the chair opens portals.

It's conclusive because why would the writer draw Thanos pressing the area with an extended finger? You know how stupid you sound right now?

If the writer wanted the reader to believe that the chair wasn't used then he would NOT have drawn the left index finger (finger used for activation of controls) extended to pressing a specific area of the hand rest. Duh.

You are not understanding. You Originally claimed that Thanos can bfr Mangog by opening portals exactly how he did in the Gladiator scene.

Even if my evidence that Thanos used the chair is faulty, that doesn't prove that he didn't used the chair (which is required in order for him to have that ability in a forum fight)
Therefore, the possibility that Thanos used the chair destroys your claim.

Originally posted by h1a8
It's conclusive because why would the writer draw Thanos pressing the area with an extended finger? You know how stupid you sound right now?

If the writer wanted the reader to believe that the chair wasn't used then he would NOT have drawn the left index finger (finger used for activation of controls) extended to pressing a specific area of the hand rest. Duh.

You are not understanding. You Originally claimed that Thanos can bfr Mangog by opening portals exactly how he did in the Gladiator scene.

Even if my evidence that Thanos used the chair is faulty, that doesn't prove that he didn't used the chair (which is required in order for him to have that ability in a forum fight).

Let's have a bet on it.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
cool.

Let's have a bet on it.

You are deflecting.

You have to prove that Thanos did not use the chair (since it's a possibility) to open that portal against Gladiator.

That's the bottom line

No, I am to prove that Thanos has the ability to open portals without his chair, just like the one he uses against Gladiator.

Not teleportation like Ambient posted. Portals that characters can stroll through, gates, doorways, that kinda thing.

Wanna bet?

Originally posted by h1a8

Saint originally claimed that Thanos can bfr Mangog exactly like he did Gladiator. Thanos was in his chair when he did that. I asked Saint to prove that Thanos can do that WITHOUT his chair (or that Thanos did it without using the chair).

So why do you troll me? Just read the entire exchange first.

The only proof offered thus far in the BFR argument, on either side, is the cite to BFRing Gladiator and then the three scans Ambient posted.

Meanwhile, you said:
-the power comes from the throne; and
-Thanos needed to restore the throne to get the power back

but as usual you refuse to try to prove either point. Why? It's like you're addicted to arguing comics but allergic to reading them.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
No, I am to prove that Thanos has the ability to open portals without his chair, just like the one he uses against Gladiator.

Not teleportation like Ambient posted. Portals that characters can stroll through, gates, doorways, that kinda thing.

Wanna bet?

Proving that Thanos didn't use the chair in that scene proves your case. Duh
Unless you have other proof then that's fine too.

Originally posted by Smurph
It isn't an act of trolling to point out trolling.

The only proof offered thus far in the BFR argument, on either side, is the cite to BFRing Gladiator and then the three scans Ambient posted.

Meanwhile, you said:
-the power comes from the throne; and
-Thanos needed to restore the throne to get the power back

but as usual you refuse to try to prove either point. Why? It's like you're addicted to arguing comics but allergic to reading them.

No the argument is that Thanos can bfr Mangog exactly how he did against Gladiator. Keep up. Saint then tried to cover up his faulty claim by creating a new one (ignoring the faulty one), stating that Thanos can teleport. I know this. Everyone knows this. But how does self teleportation BFR Mangog? Therefore the new claim is still faulty.

In the Gladiator scene it appears, to the reasonable person, that Thanos activated the portal by pressing a specific area on the hand rest controls with his index finger. Therefore, at the very least, it's creates the possibility that Thanos used the chair.

Do you understand?

Originally posted by h1a8
Proving that Thanos didn't use the chair in that scene proves your case. Duh
Unless you have other proof then that's fine too.

Sure. Let's bet on it.

All of a sudden you seem quite meek. What would you like to put on the line to back your words up?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Sure. Let's bet on it.

All of a sudden you seem quite meek. What would you like to put on the line to back your words up?

Originally posted by h1a8
Bet on what? Just prove your claim, otherwise Thanos is not able to bfr Mangog in a forum fight.

That Thanos is able to open portals that one can stroll through without his chair..

I don't know how Saint proves that Thanos didn't use the chair in that specific scene.

But, while he's at it, he should probably prove that Thanos didn't make a deal with Mephisto to open a portal.

And that an alternate dimension Loki wasn't invisible, standing beside the throne, opening portals willy nilly.

Seems like once I challenge him and he can't just be a weasel, he suddenly backs down from the challenge.

Yet uses words like truth, never shown and trolling. Strange.

Edit: maybe Thanos is using Titan Sign Language. Maybe he is pointing to where he wants to open his portal, which wouldn't need the chair.

All I need do really is show him opening portals without his chair, I guess.