What are you talking about. Post it or don’t. If you don’t I have no idea of what you are referring to? If not, that will no longer be my problem.
It must pertain to what would physically happen to Count Nefaria without his time machine, and eye zappers. Do you realize how powerful an attack it is to simply look at someone and blast the shit out of them continuously is? How about also being much, much faster than they are? Then suddenly losing all of that? Those in fact were used to assault the Avengers in combat. That was literally how he fights normally with powers.
Then we take those powers away, and we know that he can throw a punch, but now it is drastically reduced in speed, and he is facing an Olympic Boxing champion, who can also wrestle and was also the Olympic Wrestling champion, while also having know combat on the battlefield, which means knee strikes and tons of dirty fighting, versus Count Nefaria who has no prior experience or knowledge of H2H physical attacks.
Fighting skills refer to, actions measured by what actions the character uses while in combat.
Count Nefaria used his speed, and ocular vision attacks during combat. He also used punches. His speed is actually even tied to his reflex speeds, which is why he was able to quickly palm Mjolnir.
Outside of his fighting skills is his history. It states nothing about any sort of fighting skill training in terms of physical combat training.
Are they dick fighting here Stilt? How is this supposed to go exactly?
Please tell me how you see this going, instead of sitting your ass up in your cloud trying to poke holes in the reasons behind why I believe that Hercules would absolutely demolish Nefaria here. What is your opinion, and why do you feel that way?
Let everyone know why? If you already did and I missed it, bring it back to the top. If you don’t have the energy, neither do I.
Maybe he's referring to this:
https://www.zipcomic.com/the-avengers-1963-issue-165
Page 4, third panel
Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
That...is a far cry from "never had any formal training".......
It is not relevant at all.
Nefaria has just gotten super-powers for the first time, that is what he meant by being inexperienced.
To make it painfully clear, Simon wasn't trained in h2h back then, either. He was trained by Cap eventually, but it happened much later.
Originally posted by Magnificent Myeah, that's what I thought too
Maybe he's referring to this:https://www.zipcomic.com/the-avengers-1963-issue-165
Page 4, third panel
and yeah, what Stilt said. That's a remark about Nefaria discovering how strong his new powers are. Nothing to do with fighting training, at all.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
But we do know that... as the context is crystal-clear as fuck to anyone who read the book...You're just here to troll, Todd. Be silent or you'll be sent or another "vacation".
And with no forums to spam on, you'll likely end yourself.
Did Stoic say this? No? Than you're speculating.
Nef's inexperience in fights is the self evident thing. Herc would run circles around him.
Originally posted by Magnificent M113 posts since 2013... whose sock! 😂
Maybe he's referring to this:https://www.zipcomic.com/the-avengers-1963-issue-165
Page 4, third panel
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
118 posts!
Hey Stilt, I wanted you to read something. I’m not entirely certain why the truth triggered you to the degree of constantly quoting me, but read this.
Modern humans originated in Africa within the past 200,000 years and evolved from their most likely recent common ancestor, Homo erectus, which means 'upright man' in Latin. Homo erectus is an extinct species of human that lived between 1.9 million and 135,000 years ago. Africanus is it’s scientific designation Stilt, because it was found in Africa.
Does this seem reasonable to you?
Originally posted by Magnificent M
Maybe he's referring to this:https://www.zipcomic.com/the-avengers-1963-issue-165
Page 4, third panel
In every page we see that he is using his superior speed to be a step ahead of them at all times. He is also using his eye beams to further control the battle. Take away those powers and we are talking anout an entirely different character.