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Originally posted by Guestdude
No. A nuke is hot in general for several second/

But it is not 100 million degrees celcius for longer than a millionth of a second. It immediately cools down after it reaches this temp

“The hottest part of any explosion occurs in the initial stages”
https://www.forbes.com/sites/startswithabang/2020/03/28/ask-ethan-how-can-a-nuclear-bomb-be-hotter-than-the-center-of-our-sun/?sh=40174c56460b

In fiction, lifting strength is never the same as striking, Batman can’t lift a car, but he could punch someone though a brick wall.

So, we need to compare Superman’s attack power to thors, not his lifting strength

Best quantifiable attack for Thor is probably, the jotunheim bolt, when he sent a shockwave la hundred times larger than the Grand Canyon.

A lower end feat would probably be his shockwave he created when attacking malekith or Thor.

Nowhere does that article state what you are saying.
1st, the article is talking about atomic bombs, not hydrogen bombs.
2nd, plenty of sources will tell you that 99% of the entire thermal energy of a hydrogen bomb is during the 2nd pulse which lasts for MANY SECONDS. If you can't find a source then I'll provide you with one

I didn't say lifting strength = striking strength. Pay attention
I said striking strength > lifting strength
In particular,
Striking strength = lifting strength + other factors.
Lifting strength gives the lowest amount ones striking strength can be. Not the highest.

The jotunheim feat isn't a striking feat. That's an energy projection feat. It's not practical in combat. Thor can't apply that move unless someone sits or lays there and allows Thor to do that.

Lastly, the feat isn't what you think it is. The land mass was mostly frozen and hollow underneath. Thor melted a critical area and created a domino effect. A good punch could have achieved the same result. We even see how the land mass is held up by random beams (can't think of the word) UNDERNEATH.

The “hottest” part of any explosion is in the intiAl stages, that means explosions don’t retain the highest amount of heat for the entire duration of the explosion.
Hydrogen/thermonuclear bombs are no different, they heat up to that level than cool down. It does not stay as 100,000,000 degrees celcius for several seconds,
The fire ball last that long, but the fire ball temperature does not stay the same for that long, and the shockwave spreads for even longer. But it does not stay at 100,000,000 degrees celcius for longer than a millionth of a second

I feel like you just looked up the heat of a Thermonuclear weapon and didn’t keep reading
https://www.atomicarchive.com/science/effects/fireball.html

We are talking all around attack power, how hard you can hit , no matter if you are punching kicking or using energy blast.

Also, it doesn’t matter if the ice didn’t have a lot supporting it, it was thick enough to handle the weight of multi ton beast. And human bodies. A good punch could have done it , but only if that punch was strong as Thor energy blast

Also it’s pretty practical in a fight hence why he did it while fighting frost giants. Also it’s explicitly the force of his blow that causes of the effect not heat, don’t know where you’re getting that from. He didn’t melt an area the balst created a shockwave that expanded outward
The script confirms this https://comicvine.gamespot.com/a/uploads/original/11140/111403694/8207944-4688247740-unkno.png

And confirmed in the Audio in the Thor dvd for deaf people that describes what happens
https://streamable.com/6slvln

Are we pretending Thor Ferrell is on par with Superman?

Superman

Thor
Wonder woman
Vision
Ikaris
Homelander

Why are we even comparing Thor with Superman?
Superman is so much stronger and faster than Thor,it's not even close.

Who's the dude saying Thor's lightening cloak will negate a blitz, whose blitz did the cloak negate? Just stating random sh*t cos you don't want your favourite hero to lose easily.

I like Thor but he isn't on Supes level.
He gets the steppenwolf treatment.

Originally posted by Guestdude
The “hottest” part of any explosion is in the intiAl stages, that means explosions don’t retain the highest amount of heat for the entire duration of the explosion.
Hydrogen/thermonuclear bombs are no different, they heat up to that level than cool down. It does not stay as 100,000,000 degrees celcius for several seconds,
The fire ball last that long, but the fire ball temperature does not stay the same for that long, and the shockwave spreads for even longer. But it does not stay at 100,000,000 degrees celcius for longer than a millionth of a second

I feel like you just looked up the heat of a Thermonuclear weapon and didn’t keep reading
https://www.atomicarchive.com/science/effects/fireball.html

We are talking all around attack power, how hard you can hit , no matter if you are punching kicking or using energy blast.

Also, it doesn’t matter if the ice didn’t have a lot supporting it, it was thick enough to handle the weight of multi ton beast. And human bodies. A good punch could have done it , but only if that punch was strong as Thor energy blast

Also it’s pretty practical in a fight hence why he did it while fighting frost giants. Also it’s explicitly the force of his blow that causes of the effect not heat, don’t know where you’re getting that from. He didn’t melt an area the balst created a shockwave that expanded outward
The script confirms this https://comicvine.gamespot.com/a/uploads/original/11140/111403694/8207944-4688247740-unkno.png

And confirmed in the Audio in the Thor dvd for deaf people that describes what happens
https://streamable.com/6slvln

1. Where do you get that the 1st pulse is hotter than the 2nd pulse? Quote and site the source. It clearly states 99% of the thermal energy is in the 2nd pulse. Do you know what thermal energy is?
The temperature of the 2nd pulse is still orders of magnitudes above the neutron star while lasting many seconds.

2. Thor summon lightning from the sky and placed (gently)his hammer on the ground where the lightning from the sky continue to flow into the ground until the ground broke. The ground did not break when Thor placed the hammer on it. The ground broke after several moments of lightning striking it. You starting to Troll now.

How is that practical in a battle? Who's going to sit there and let Thor do that?

3. So the feat was multiton since the ground can support a multiton beast? Well then that's a weak ass feat as the multiton beast weighs orders of magnitudes below the force Superman can generate. Plus the beast was breaking the ground easily while it was running on the ground (it barely support the beast).

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Originally posted by h1a8
I can't quote you. Use a different apostrophe (not the ios version).

1. Where do you get that the 1st pulse is hotter than the 2nd pulse? Quote and site the source. It clearly states 99% of the thermal energy is in the 2nd pulse. Do you know what thermal energy is?
The temperature of the 2nd pulse is still orders of magnitudes above the neutron star while lasting many seconds.

2. Thor summon lightning from the sky and placed (gently)his hammer on the ground where the lightning from the sky continue to flow into the ground until the ground broke. The ground did not break when Thor placed the hammer on it. The ground broke after several moments of lightning striking it. You starting to Troll now.

How is that practical in a battle? Who's going to sit there and let Thor do that?

3. So the feat was multiton since the ground can support a multiton beast? Well then that's a weak ass feat as the multiton beast weighs orders of magnitudes below the force Superman can generate. Plus the beast was breaking the ground easily while it was running on the ground (it barely support the beast).

Please read the link, I can tell you haven’t, the second pulse is the fire ball, the fire balls doesn’t stay at that temp for multiple seconds, it cools down the entire time it’s going off. So yes, 99% of the heat is in the second pulse, but the heat doesn’t last long. It’s only 100,000,000 celcius for a millionth of a second than it cools down rapidly for several seconds, the length of the second pulse.

Do you just not understand context? The point was the ice wasn’t weak, and what makes the feat impressive is the range of the shockwave. That’s why it’s a much better feat than anything Superman has done, attack power wise

Again, Thor does it in battle, but we aren’t discussing a battle scenario here just how hard each character can hit.

Originally posted by WolvesofBabylon
Are we pretending Thor Ferrell is on par with Superman?

Originally posted by Guestdude
quote: (post)
Originally posted by h1a8
I can't quote you. Use a different apostrophe (not the ios version).

1. Where do you get that the 1st pulse is hotter than the 2nd pulse? Quote and site the source. It clearly states 99% of the thermal energy is in the 2nd pulse. Do you know what thermal energy is?
The temperature of the 2nd pulse is still orders of magnitudes above the neutron star while lasting many seconds.

2. Thor summon lightning from the sky and placed (gently)his hammer on the ground where the lightning from the sky continue to flow into the ground until the ground broke. The ground did not break when Thor placed the hammer on it. The ground broke after several moments of lightning striking it. You starting to Troll now.

How is that practical in a battle? Who's going to sit there and let Thor do that?

3. So the feat was multiton since the ground can support a multiton beast? Well then that's a weak ass feat as the multiton beast weighs orders of magnitudes below the force Superman can generate. Plus the beast was breaking the ground easily while it was running on the ground (it barely support the beast).

Please read the link, I can tell you haven’t, the second pulse is the fire ball, the fire balls doesn’t stay at that temp for multiple seconds, it cools down the entire time it’s going off. So yes, 99% of the heat is in the second pulse, but the heat doesn’t last long. It’s only 100,000,000 celcius for a millionth of a second than it cools down rapidly for several seconds, the length of the second pulse.

Do you just not understand context? The point was the ice wasn’t weak, and what makes the feat impressive is the range of the shockwave. That’s why it’s a much better feat than anything Superman has done, attack power wise

Again, Thor does it in battle, but we aren’t discussing a battle scenario here just how hard each character can hit.

2nd pulse lasts for more than 20 seconds and carries 99% of all the thermal energy.

I believe you are making stuff up.
Prove that the temperature of a hydrogen bomb (not atom bomb) drops below 1 million degrees before 20 seconds. Site your sources.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
No that's false, they don't dictate the canon and power levels of the MCU. They just give an insight to their intentions.

Also you need to prove that's a direct quote from them.

Originally posted by Lestov16
You MIGHT be correct? What is WW's durability, as I did not see WW84?

Originally posted by abhilegend
They're the top authority on the films they directed. Are you stupid or something?

Says the moron who thinks the Sokovia blast didnt touch Thor.

And no, theyre not the top authority. That goes to a guy named Kevin Feige.

DCEU Superman "died" due to nuclear bomb. Being near to the sun saved him.

Doesn't matter how powerful Superman is. MCU fans will still argue Black Widow beats him easily with a flex of her snatch lips.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Says the moron who thinks the Sokovia blast didnt touch Thor.

And no, theyre not the top authority. That goes to a guy named Kevin Feige.

Kevin Fiege doesn't direct movies.

Originally posted by joesha28
DCEU Superman "died" due to nuclear bomb. Being near to the sun saved him.

Originally posted by joesha28
DCEU Superman "died" due to nuclear bomb. Being near to the sun saved him.

Also before Superman was knocked out,he was already severely weakened due to kryptonite.