Silver Surfer Vs Superman 2022 edition.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Hey idiot, that's not even the same issue where you pull this scan from? Booster doesn't appear in Superman 73.

Second scan is a stasis field, not a time stop (Superman can still talk but can't move ".

Like I said, currently even Superboy can overpower total time freeze and Superman already overpowered full chrono suspension.

https://i.postimg.cc/ZRZgmP3V/image.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/1tHd3grP/image.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/Kj8HkZ0T/image.jpg

Superman overpowered full chrono suspension too.

Learn to ****ing read.

Now what?

Originally posted by abhilegend
So basically nothing except "You read those comics"?

Here's Superman 73, let me know where Booster Gold appears in the comic?

https://readcomiconline.li/Comic/Superman-1987/Issue-73?id=16735

Do let us know what Waverider said, idiot?

What the **** is a slow chrono suspension? The new god said he should already be suspended indefinitely but Superman broke out of it.

Still ignoring Superboy breaking out of the time freeze I see lol.

Do you close your eyes when reading 😂

R u illiterate bro? What does it mean when Waverider says “do u think u can freeze time for someone who can hold and mold it!” While they’re under attack ??? Really question your reading comprehension man.

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Neither is what the scan says nor is that makes sense since suspension is a synonym for stoppage

What the scan say is that chrono suspension effect is slow, in that he was describing the process of what we’ll eventually happen if he does not stop its progression, compared that to time stop being instant.

But in the scan it says Superman is resisting the full chrono suspension.......I.E, Superman was resisting to be timestopped, resisting the progression......

Or should I say the progression is not instant is because Superman has resistance to it.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Additionally, he can react to the Flashes running at "Timestop" speed and recognise Barry Allen.

Now what?

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
But in the scan it says Superman is resisting the full chrono suspension.......I.E, Superman was resisting to be timestopped, resisting the progression......

Originally posted by Ambient
Not from the way I see it. Time stop should be instant not creeping effect, if it was from full animated suspension and back then that I can see.

You logic basically is a circle:

Prove Superman can resist timestop
Superman resists timestop long enough to break free
This isn't timestop because it didn't instantly timestop him....

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
But Superman is resistant to time stop, so the progression isn't instant.

You logic basically is a circle:

Prove Superman can resist timestop
Superman resists timestop long enough to break free
This isn't timestop because it didn't instantly timestop him....

Therefore the chrono feat being discussed is an attack that simulated time stop on a slower scale.

Originally posted by Ambient
I’ve posted 2 instance of him affected by time stop so no his not resistance to it that is my proof.

Therefore the chrono feat being discussed is an attack that simulated time stop on a slower scale.

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
What i'm getting here is Ambient was saying the scaling doesn't necessarily work. So use Superboy to give feats to Superman is a bit iffy

That being said, Superman did overcome timestop/timestop speed in the past

His body is so speeded up that he can casually interact in a fraction of a nanosecond, an instant
suspended between „eternities of past and future” – a time suspension.
http://i738.photobucket.com/albums/xx28/PhilosophiaKMC/NanosecondInteraction1.jpg
http://i738.photobucket.com/albums/xx28/PhilosophiaKMC/NanosecondInteraction2.jpg
Shruggs off full-chrono suspension.
https://i1093.photobucket.com/albums/i436/KMCPhilosophia/fullchronosuspension.jpg
Perceive Flashes when they achieved time-stop velocity

If we go by speculations without acknowledging that comics are written by various writers, I also can argue Superman is getting more powerful over the years or like Abhi tried to argue he was caught off guard or it isn't timestop it was stasis field etc

But I assuming we're not going into this irrational lowball route right? I mean, other posters may do that to Surfer, but but I don't like to do that.

Originally posted by Ambient
😕 very 😕

Do you close your eyes when reading 😂

R u illiterate bro? What does it mean when Waverider says “do u think u can freeze time for someone who can hold and mold it!” While they’re under attack ??? Really question your reading comprehension man.

What the scan say is that chrono suspension effect is slow, in that he was describing the process of what we’ll eventually happen if he does not stop its progression, compared that to time stop being instant.

https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/82911377/DC9BCE29-AB28-4C53-B69A-F0EE35844E4E.jpeg.html

How's he able to talk if he's frozen in time?

Originally posted by Ambient
We’ll now he can recognize Surfer beating the crap out of him.

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
We also have three separate examples for him to be able to break/have resistance to it

If we go by speculations without acknowledging that comics are written by various writers, I also can argue Superman is getting more powerful over the years or like Abhi tried to argue he was caught off guard or it isn't timestop it was stasis field etc

But I assuming we're not going into this irrational lowball route right? I mean, other posters may do that to Surfer, but but I don't like to do that.

But here’s my problem with your evidence dough. I don’t think it’s a time stop technically since it still measure time, a fraction of nano second suspended in the present past and future. Time is just going slowly as opposed to it at full stop .

And superman closed the deal for me when he says it’s time delation - therefore there just moving really really slow in time.

So yeah my stand still intact.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Its a stasis field you idiot, Superman was still able to talk but unable to move.

https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/82911377/DC9BCE29-AB28-4C53-B69A-F0EE35844E4E.jpeg.html

How's he able to talk if he's frozen in time?
With what? He can't even hurt Superman.

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
If we go by speculations without acknowledging that comics are written by various writers, I also can argue Superman is getting more powerful over the years or like Abhi tried to argue he was caught off guard or it isn't timestop it was stasis field etc

But I assuming we're not going into this irrational lowball route right? I mean, other posters may do that to Surfer, but but I don't like to do that.

The second feat looks like it's been plucked out context and where he's being frozen down to temperatures close to absolute zero, which would stop the motion of the atoms he's composed of, which would slow him down, which I guess could be called a "full-chrono suspension," but it wouldn't stop time. But free to provide the context so we can sort it out.

Originally posted by Ambient
Low balling 👇

But here’s my problem with your evidence dough. I don’t think it’s a time stop technically since it still measure time, a fraction of nano second suspended in the present past and future. Time is just going slowly as opposed to it at full stop .

And superman closed the deal for me when he says it’s time delation - therefore there just moving really really slow in time.

So yeah my stand still intact.

The measurement of time tells you that this instant/split second was suspended. It literally functions as the same meaning as this scan when it states a split second lasts forever.....
https://ibb.co/9bjmHX1

And if we want to go technical, the word "dilation" means the action or condition of becoming or being made wider, larger, or more open.

And combining with the fact the scan states the instant "suspended between eternities of past and future" can be easily argued that the "time dilation" is referring to time is strecthed/slowed to a stop

Originally posted by Astner
The first feat isn't a time stop since occurs with a fraction of a nanosecond (and therefore not a fraction of a picosecond, or a femtosecond, etc.) followed by flowery descriptions, implying that's a slow-down and not an actual stop. Furthermore, Clark points out he's "speeded up" which wouldn't matter if it was an actual time stop.

The second feat looks like it's been plucked out context and where he's being frozen down to temperatures close to absolute zero, which would stop the motion of the atoms he's composed of, which would slow him down, which I guess could be called a "full-chrono suspension," but it wouldn't stop time. But free to provide the context so we can sort it out.

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
A fraction of nanosecond suspended(stopped) between past and future...I.E, it doesn't move forward anymore

The measurement of time tells you that this instant/split second was suspended. It literally functions as the same meaning as this scan when it states a split second lasts forever.....
https://ibb.co/9bjmHX1

The second scan is all the context...But I guess you can chalk it up to flowery language or whatever to dismiss this feat

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Superman said he was sped up because he doesn't want to let Hal know his secret identity.....That is why the story was chosen to be the finale of Action Comics Weekly in the first place

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
The second scan is all the context...But I guess you can chalk it up to flowery language or whatever to dismiss this feat

Originally posted by Ambient
Read the comics Abhi and quite that fan fiction stuff.

Originally posted by Astner
[B]If it was an actual time stop then speeding up wouldn't have worked as an explanation. Speeding up can only counteract a slow-down, not a time stop.

There you go again. Dismissing feats when it doesn't suits you.

Originally posted by Astner
The first feat isn't a time stop since occurs with a fraction of a nanosecond (and therefore not a fraction of a picosecond, or a femtosecond, etc.) followed by flowery descriptions, implying that's a slow-down and not an actual stop. Furthermore, Clark points out he's "speeded up" which wouldn't matter if it was an actual time stop.

😂

Flowery description, huh? How did Surfer and Squirrel girl talk in the timestop by that logic? No matter of speed should work by that logic?

The second feat looks like it's been plucked out context and where he's being frozen down to temperatures close to absolute zero, which would stop the motion of the atoms he's composed of, which would slow him down, which I guess could be called a "full-chrono suspension," but it wouldn't stop time. But free to provide the context so we can sort it out.

Superman 663. Knock yourself out.

Originally posted by Astner
If it was an actual time stop then speeding up wouldn't have worked as an explanation. Speeding up can only counteract a slow-down, not a time stop.

No, it's just a page. Cough up the issue number or concede the point.

Superman 663, and maybe not be a big jerk when asking somebody the issue number next time

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Funny, by this logic, Surfer also shouldn't be able do anything since time doesn't move either. Or even hurt Superman, again, since time doesn't move

Superman 663, and maybe not be a big jerk when asking somebody the issue number next time