Originally posted by carver9
Question, why couldn't Thor just absorb Darkseid power like he did Galactus? By the way, Galactus absorption fts>Darkseid, so it should be easier to achieve tbh.
Originally posted by Stoic
No, that has yet to be proven. CK Thor was a universal plus threat.
Originally posted by carver9That's begging someone to disprove a negative.
Question, why couldn't Thor just absorb Darkseid power like he did Galactus? By the way, Galactus absorption fts>Darkseid, so it should be easier to achieve tbh.
And conflating Cosmic Thor's energy absorption feats w/ Galactus' doesn't support shifting the burden of proof.
Originally posted by carver9
Question, why couldn't Thor just absorb Darkseid power like he did Galactus? By the way, Galactus absorption fts>Darkseid, so it should be easier to achieve tbh.
ODG said it best
Originally posted by ODG
...I will continue to posit that Cosmic Thor's feats against Galactus were necessarily connected to inadvertent backdoor access to the Power Cosmic as a whole
Originally posted by carver9
Mjlonir doesn't just absorb power cosmic. It absorbs all forms of energy. We can't just limit that scene to power cosmic.
Absorb blasts and ambient energy vs drain a being are two different things. Are you suggesting that classic Thor can drain Galactus, Thanos, etc just all the same? Or Odin can do this himself?
Mjolnir can absorb energy of any type. Thor has done this repeatedly in the past. He cracked open a Celestial's armor by absorbing the electromagnetic energy of a planet, and used it to augment his striking power for example. Draining creatures that are not expressly composed of energy isn't something that I've seen him do in the past, but if he fought a Captain Atom/Major Force type, he would begin with an advantage due to Mjolnir's ability to absorb, or drain energy. With an Asgardian spell, Thor was able to pull Loki"s soul out of his body.
Originally posted by Stoic
Mjolnir can absorb energy of any type. Thor has done this repeatedly in the past. He cracked open a Celestial's armor by absorbing the electromagnetic energy of a planet, and used it to augment his striking power for example. Draining creatures that are not expressly composed of energy isn't something that I've seen him do in the past, but if he fought a Captain Atom/Major Force type, he would begin with an advantage due to Mjolnir's ability to absorb, or drain energy. With an Asgardian spell, Thor was able to pull Loki"s soul out of his body.
You didn't read my post. I stated there was a difference between absorbing AMBIENT energy vs draining a being.
Ok point out all the times he drained a being of all it's energy and powers?
You and Carver are suggesting a no limits fallacy. Thor (even classic Thor), Odin, etc can drain ANY being. For example, classic Thor can drain Celestials, Black Winter, Knull, LT, Thanos, IG, etc.
Originally posted by ODG
I fail to see how an average Galactus has any relevance to measuring Black Winter's durability. I trust you also recognize this and have no intentions of dragging the Black Winter down to an average Galactus' level.
Interesting you say this, because if we add 2+2 together, I can get potato:
Dominions fear Galactus.
Dominions also make the Black Winter look like an angry jelly baby.
Proof it was a Dominion:
So Black Winter <<<<< Dominon, who is/are <= Galactus/Phoenix.
And Phoenix = Legion +Hope.
As I said, 2+2 = Potato.
Originally posted by Astner
To be fair the Dominion species are powerful as collectives, but not necessarily as individual beings.It doesn't matter whether the President and the Minister of Defense can authorize a nuclear strike, they're still going to fear a grizzly bear in a chance encounter.
Loki said he caught a glimpse of ONE, which is what he said made the BW look like an angry jelly baby.
Nice analogy, though. If applicable.
Edit: note too, that the description of A Dominion (singular) calls them categorically (not colloquially) godlike.
Originally posted by Astner
Dominions aren't being, but collectives of Titans, which in turn are ascended societies with a shared intellect.- Powers of X #5
Agreed, but that was not your point.
A singular Dominion is very powerful. Powerful enough to be categorically gods, in terms of power.
A singular Dominion is powerful enough to make the BW look like an angry jelly baby. And a singular Dominion is scared of Galactus. Your original post, to be fair, was wrong.
A singular Dominion isn't a singular being, and Loki doesn't even refer to it as a singular being he refers to it as "things that have dominion." Maybe a better analogy would be looking at an excavation project (with dynamite) and say that it makes tigers look harmless in comparison, when even a smaller cat like a jaguar would instill fear in the workers if it roamed around on the excavation site.
Originally posted by Astner
A singular Dominion isn't a singular being, and Loki doesn't even refer to it as a singular being he refers to it as "things that have dominion." Maybe a better analogy would be looking at an excavation project (with dynamite) and say that it makes tigers look harmless in comparison, when even a smaller cat like a jaguar would instill fear in the workers if it roamed around on the excavation site.
It doesn't change the point that a singular Dominion makes BW look like an angry jelly baby, and a singular Dominion is scared of G.
And Loki said he caught a glimpse of ONE. And it was this one that he saw. And it was this ONE thing that made the BW look like an angry jelly baby.
Never disputed that a Dominion isn't a collective, btw, so not sure what your attempt at point pivoting and water muddying is attempting to do?
Originally posted by Astner
To be fair the Dominion species are powerful as collectives, but not necessarily as individual beings.It doesn't matter whether the President and the Minister of Defense can authorize a nuclear strike, they're still going to fear a grizzly bear in a chance encounter.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
It doesn't change the point that a singular Dominion makes BW look like an angry jelly baby, and a singular Dominion is scared of G.And Loki said he caught a glimpse of ONE. And it was this one that he saw. And it was this ONE thing that made the BW look like an angry jelly baby.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Your mistake is in saying they're individual beings. They're not, they're a collective.
Originally posted by Astner"But it looked like ONE had....."
He said he "caught a glimpse of something out there that makes him look like an angry jelly-baby," "things that had dominion."Yeah I misspoke, it was before I looked it up again and I had a hazy recollection of what they were. Dominions are collectives of Titans.
One. Singular.
SomeTHING. Singular.
There are THINGS. Plural.
To use your analogy, there are tigers out there. I saw something that was scary. I saw a glimpse of one out there.
Therefore, I saw a singular tiger. That tiger was scary. Not.....the entire population of the world's tigers, lol.
