Originally posted by carver9Re-read the scan. It says that more stress = more storage.
Galan scan is saying Supes is keeping possession of his solar energy.
This is what I was trying to say was wrong about h1's description. It's not just about mental blocks over his strength. Superman accesses a power supply that increases over the course of a fight.
Originally posted by carver9
Your first scan from Galan is relevant but your second ones are not for a number of reasons (since Wolverine, Spiderman, Batman, etc... have scenes of taking out their entire Rogue gallery when pissed).Galan scan is saying Supes is keeping possession of his solar energy. Even though this is mostly verbiage, him retaining/keeping his energy isn't what I'm discussing here. I'm saying he doesn't get stronger. He has a cap on his strength. There's a difference. Also, I don't know why your arguing with me about a scene that mentions Superman energy levels being near depleted. It's literally on panel. Either Superman was lying (and I don't consider him a liar) or Doomsday was also weakened.
Not near depleted. He had nothing. Which meant Doomsday was soooooo weak, someone with zero energy left could kill him. Literally on panel:
Originally posted by carver9
Lol... I don't have to say anything, Superman literally said he had NOTHING in the tank...Any other Marvel character, you would be drooling over this statement.
Thanks for the scan!
So if we take it at face value, using your logic, Superman killed Doomsday with no energy left. Which means....Uncle Ben, Aunt May, Jarvis, any one of them could have killed Doomsday there.
Assuming Superman didn't dynamically ramp up, you see.
Originally posted by Smurph
Re-read the scan. It says that more stress = more storage.This is what I was trying to say was wrong about h1's description. It's not just about mental blocks over his strength. Superman accesses a power supply that increases over the course of a fight.
Like getting a bigger phone battery, the harder you use it.
Brainiac absorbs Superman power which leaves him depleted of energy.
Hulk is getting his power absorbed but is becoming far more powerful.
Huge difference here
Originally posted by carver9
Brainiac absorbs Superman power which leaves him depleted of energy.Hulk is getting his power absorbed but is becoming far more powerful.
Huge difference here
Lol your scan actually shows his powers ramping back up (Lobo tells him to get up to speed). A few pages later:
A good show of dynamic strength, no sun needed here. Superman just ramped up back to his usual strength levels. Bear in mind the Brainiac Queen was still draining him in battle:
Proof he was 'fully back':
Now. we know Brainiac didn't keep any suns handy around to recharge him - yet here he is.
How do you square this fine comic, carver? He was drained, depleted of energy. There were no suns nearby. Yet a few panels later, he is at full strength.
Dynamic. Or are you wrong, and he *wasn't* depleted, lol. Same way he had NOTHING left, was tired as normal humans get tired, yet could still kill Doomsday?
Lol... the argument ISNT him getting back to his normal strength over time. True dynamic strength, he wouldn't have been drained in the first place. There's more showings like this, a lot more. Heck, there's showings of him being drained so much, that he completely lost his powers for a while. Also, that was a stressful situation he was in, so he should've been able to ramp up easily there. His family was being hurt.
Originally posted by carver9
Lol... the argument ISNT him getting back to his normal strength over time. True dynamic strength, he wouldn't have been drained in the first place. There's more showings like this, a lot more. Heck, there's showings of him being drained so much, that he completely lost his powers for a while. Also, that was a stressful situation he was in, so he should've been able to ramp up easily there. His family was being hurt.
He...did? He was using HV etc. like I said, it wasn't like he was powerless after being released.
Am also confused as to why TONY'S failure has a bearing on BRAINIAC'S success?
So explain how in your scans he's depleted, yet at full power a couple of pages later? Where's this energy coming from?
Same question, where did he have the energy to kill Doomsday? He had nothing, remember.
If I'm starving, so hungry that I can barely stand.....then fight 12 rounds against Mike Tyson, and at the end of the 12 rounds am at 100%, without any external amps like burgerdipping(lol).
Is that not dynamic strength?
Originally posted by carver9
All of them got their powers back. Superboy, Supergirl, Superman... every single one of them and they were all depleted of power, lmmfao. So I'm guessing we are handing out dynamic strength to everyone?
So explain it. You're the one who brought it into this thread....
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
If I'm starving, so hungry that I can barely stand.....then fight 12 rounds against Mike Tyson, and at the end of the 12 rounds am at 100%, [B]without any external amps like burgerdipping(lol).Is that not dynamic strength?
So explain it. You're the one who brought it into this thread.... [/B]
Yes, it's a small form of dynamic strength. As long as we agree that Superman, Supergirl, and Superboy doesn't go from 100 to 200 based off emotions, I'm cool because that is my argument.
Originally posted by carver9
Yes, it's a small form of dynamic strength. As long as we agree that Superman, Supergirl, and Superboy doesn't go from 100 to 200 based off emotions, I'm cool because that is my argument.
Supergirl and Superboy had power dampeners 🙂
Superman didn't have his power negated. As Brainiac says, it's not just sunlight that gives him energy:
Where, if not his emotional state (i.e. the love for his family)? Is Brainiac, level 12 master intelligence (or whatever DC call it lol) making stuff up?
Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Wait, did the comics state they had their full powers back like Superman had?
I'm basing this primarily off of Supergirl and Superboy not being able to fly or shoot lasers before to them being able to one punch kill Brainiacs. I do think Brainiac sucks but is it to this level? There's also other kryptonians there that didn't even get any type of exposure to sunlight flying around shooting lasers out of their eyes...
Originally posted by carver9
I'm basing this primarily off of Supergirl and Superboy not being able to fly or shoot lasers before to them being able to one punch kill Brainiacs. I do think Brainiac sucks but is it to this level? There's also other kryptonians there that didn't even get any type of exposure to sunlight flying around shooting lasers out of their eyes...
That....sounds a lot like Kryptonians can go from 100 to 200 by their dynamic strength
Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
So basically, you're saying that Supergirl and Superboy, their dynamic strength is enough to ramp up they from not being able to fly to the point that they can one punch kill Brainiacs(after these Kryptonians get sapped energy) ?That....sounds a lot like Kryptonians can go from 100 to 200 by their dynamic strength
Gotcha, so with that said, we agree that Thing also has dynamic strength since he went from not being able to hurt Hulk 'in that fight' to being able to knock him out? Or again, does this only apply to the Supes?
Originally posted by carver9
Gotcha, so with that said, we agree that Thing also has dynamic strength since he went from not being able to hurt Hulk 'in that fight' to being able to knock him out? Or again, does this only apply to the Supes?
I mean, you basically used a scene, where Superman shows dynamic strength, to prove he doesn't have?
And then doubled down, used other Krytponians, who also show dynamic strength according to you, to prove Superman(a Kryptonian) doesn't have dynamic strength?
I.E, all you did seems to only hurt your argument rather than help it
Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Not sure what you're trying to prove here?I mean, you basically used a scene, where Superman shows dynamic strength, to prove he doesn't have?
And then doubled down, used other Krytponians, who also show dynamic strength according to you, to prove Superman(a Kryptonian) doesn't have dynamic strength?
I literally said Superman has a form of dynamic strength where over time he can get back to 100% but there's nothing in that scene that shows him going over that. He even admits he is only at full power. All of them.
Originally posted by carver9
I literally said Superman has a form of dynamic strength where over time he can get back to 100% but there's nothing in that scene that shows him going over that. He even admits he is only at full power. All of them.
And Superman has "his power levels tied to his emotions" scene
And I think most importantly, not sure how this scene proves that Superman's dynamic strength only capped at only 100%?
Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
But as DS pointed out, Superboy and Supergirl had power dampeners even before Brainiac drained them?
Yet, later they can do better than before(I.E, they powers ramp to a level that actually counter the power dampeners)And Superman has "his power levels tied to his emotions" scene
And I think most importantly, not sure how this scene proves that Superman's dynamic strength only capped at only 100%?
Like I told you before and keep telling you, their powers were gone. To the point of them not even being able to fly...
If that's the truth about Superman powers being tied to his emotion, he wouldn't have been weakened at all. Especially since his family right in front of him was being hurt and Brainiac plan after that was to attack earth. If that doesn't make him emotional, what does?
It proves it because Superman said he's at full power. What does full power mean to you? It also proves it because if he had dynamic strength and it's based primarily off of emotions, he wouldn't have been depleted of power, especially with him being in one of the most critical situations in his career. His entire family being tortured and earth being next.