Originally posted by DarkSaint85
But in your example, who said Amazo was faster than Superman, as fast as WW?Was it WW herself?
Because in the same fight, we saw a powerless Zatanna speedblitzing (lmao) Amazo:
Before he could react, even. The only thing was she didn't harm him, but she was still fast enough to hit him and deflect his killing blow.
@Carver:
I say this is PIS, pookie. Is it not? Do you like it?
Originally posted by TGATESAre you under the impression that Flash caps out at light speed?
Why not?It's just for the forum battles. 😎 🤣
https://i.sstatic.net/rhCY1.jpg
This is one scan that shows that she is fast but not a speedster.
Wonder Woman has been stated to keep up with the Flash in regular cruising speed but not at top speed, but the thing is, since her powers come straight from the speed god, shouldn’t she be much faster? I mean, Hermes is the fastest out of all of the gods and can travel much faster than the speed of light.
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https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-q-fMwcVCcnY/VnvWt6TM94I/AAAAAAAAHxA/bsPcbOgAvis/s0-Ic42/RCO008.jpgThis is amazing too. Shows Flash can perceive Hermes and that Donna Troy can run with him and perceive him as well. Great showings for both.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Ok, explain how something is too fast to see but slow enough to be heard?
Because he didn't hear her, lol. He tried to but failed and got his ears smashed. Also, why are you asking me about real world things? Do you honestly think writers think about these things? Remember, Flash evacuated an entire city in under the speed of light and Cho Hulk punched a moon with force equivalent to the big bang. You all are the only one that think like this about fictional characters. Only when it suits you, though.
Originally posted by carver9
Because he didn't hear her, lol. He tried to but failed and got his ears smashed. Also, why are you asking me about real world things? Do you honestly think writers think about these things? Remember, Flash evacuated an entire city in under the speed of light and Cho Hulk punched a moon with force equivalent to the big bang. You all are the only one that think like this about fictional characters. Only when it suits you, though.
Could've sworn this was you:
Originally posted by carver9
He had to resort to using super hearing to get an indication on where she was.
Also, using Sacrifice? Are you not the guy who says Thing vs Hulk is invalid because of mind control (which I agree with btw and only ever bring up to prove a point to you)?
But let's look at your other points, pookie:
Originally posted by carver9
Example, you accept Flash going FTL to evacuate the city even though the dialog said under the speed of light but you don't accept Cho Hulk hitting the moon with Universe busting power even though the calculations were there.
Accept that the Cho showing is PIS though 👆
Originally posted by Smurph
Are you under the impression that Flash caps out at light speed?
No.
I think divine "gifts" are as plot devicy, or rather, hax, as the speed force that is also magical in nature, iirc.
What is the relationship between Hermes and the speed force, if there is one?
I'd also like to add that I have read the story, and that is not Hermes; that is a Trigon demon. My mistake.
Originally posted by carver9
You forgot to mention Wonder Woman in sacrifice moving so fast that Superman couldn't visually see her. He had to resort to using super hearing to get an indication on where she was.
It never mentions speed, you can argue that Diana has some stealth feats, but I doubt you can use it as a speed feat
Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Not really, Superman was trying to find a boulder and smash it to Wonder Woman
By the time Superman found the boulder and lift it, Diana was already gone.
Superman then tried to use superhear to find her but she sneaked behind him.It never mentions speed, you can argue that Diana has some stealth feats, but I doubt you can use it as a speed feat
Yep, he just couldn't detect her visually which is my point. If Superman picked up a boulder on Spiderman and noticed he was free, Superman would've found him immediately. That didn't happen here because she was moving around pretty freaking quick. Dark do have a point about this being a tampered with Superman.
Originally posted by carver9
Did this man just call me pookie, lol
Been doing it for days now lmao:
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
No, I said it wasn't ALWAYS UN level. ALWAYS. See how I spotted your clumsy trap?Also, your thread IS different. It involves anime/manga, which has different rules - and hence, I am arguing using different tactics. Look at you, pookie, getting owned again 😂
But good to see you saw my post above; is it PIS then?
Originally posted by carver9
Yep, he just couldn't detect her visually which is my point. If Superman picked up a boulder on Spiderman and noticed he was free, Superman would've found him immediately. That didn't happen here because she was moving around pretty freaking quick. Dark do have a point about this being a tampered with Superman.
Originally posted by carver9
That didn't happen here because she was moving around pretty freaking quick..
Batman does similar things(disapearing from views when others' attentions are turned to another object) all the time. Do you think Batman is a speedster?
Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Or she was just....you know, hiding somewhere. The comic never attributes it to her speed. If anything, the comic implied Superman's speed is too much for her so she resorted to stealth attacksBatman does similar things(disapearing from views when others' attentions are turned to another object) all the time. Do you think Batman is a speedster?
Hiding where? Lol. Who would hide from someone with super speed and x-ray vision? The comic also didn't imply that his speed was too much for her. At one point, he couldn't even hit her (and she was holding back mind you).
We don't have to continue this topic though. I already agreed with Dark that this doesn't hold any weight against Superman.
Originally posted by carver9
Hiding where? Lol. Who would hide from someone with super speed and x-ray vision? The comic also didn't imply that his speed was too much for her. At one point, he couldn't even hit her (and she was holding back mind you).
The comic literally mentions Superman's speed before Diana resorted to a sneak attack
https://i.ibb.co/P6Mtf7N/P00108.jpg
Originally posted by carver9
Hiding where? Lol. Who would hide from someone with super speed and x-ray vision? The comic also didn't imply that his speed was too much for her. At one point, he couldn't even hit her (and she was holding back mind you).We don't have to continue this topic though. I already agreed with Dark that this doesn't hold any weight against Superman.
Someone who is being mindphucked, lmao.
You really need to re-read the comic again.
So, this is what WW saw/experienced:
Agree? She got hit from the Sun to Earth, crashed, he used his freeze breath on her, she broke out, he got a boulder, was listening out, and she hit him. If anything is missed out, it wasn't intentional, but I think we can all agree this is roughly what she saw/experienced.
This is what SUPERMAN was seeing:
Notice the crucial detail? He wasn't listening out for her. He was listening to the crying civilians behind him, lmao. After he knocks 'Doomsday' to the Earth, he freezes 'Doomsday' (the purpley pink ice), then hears crying behind him. Whilst he DOES say 'nowhere to hide/nowhere I can't find you', the fact that he thinks he's in the middle of Metropolis means none of his senses are actually working at 100%.
I mean, he 'sees' Doomsday, for crying out loud.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Someone who is being mindphucked, lmao.You really need to re-read the comic again.
So, this is what WW saw/experienced:
Agree? She got hit from the Sun to Earth, crashed, he used his freeze breath on her, she broke out, he got a boulder, was listening out, and she hit him.
This is what HE was seeing:Notice the crucial detail? He wasn't listening out for her. He was listening to the crying civilians behind him, lmao.
Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
So Carver, would you consider Batman is faster than Diana(Hell,faster even than Spectre's senses)? As he leaves a present to Spectre's base without anyone(including Diana) noticing
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