Originally posted by Smurph
And Wonder Woman gets repeatedly blitzed by Mongul.And Amazo got blitzed by Black Canary.
There is no world in which Jon attacking Zod was a "blitz" (lol) but Black Canary wasn't.
This is the way you all debate due to Darksaint trollish ways, so it is what it is. You didn't say anything about it before but now it's a problem?
Originally posted by carver9No, if you want to use that definition of blitz, we can.
This is the way you all debate due to Darksaint trollish ways, so it is what it is. You didn't say anything about it before but now it's a problem?
Wonder Woman gets repeatedly blitzed by Mongul. Therefore she doesn't stand a chance against Zod.
Congrats, you won the thread.
Originally posted by carver9
Lol... Yes. He just got knocked TF out. Cry about it later.
Anyway, here's nearly 200 instances of Wonder Woman looking inferior to other top tiers in DC, majority to Superman.
Lmao.
This is a hilarious little trip through Carver's inability to understand comics. It all started in the Superman Vs Mangog thread, where I said Mangog lacked the feats to deal with Superman's speed. I SPECIFICALLY say ABC logic doesn't always work as PIS exists.
Carver gets all up in his feelings about it, and creates a whole slew of threads lol, including this one.
I point out in the one WW feat he keeps dick riding (or...only feat lol) PIS existed where Canary and Zatanna all managed to meet his requirements for a 'blitz' (note my use of quote marks lol).
Somehow, the poor man can't handle that lol. And here we are, 21 pages later, with him 'proving' Zod shitstomps WW lol.
Naah, Dark, you're just a troll. You discredited all of Wonder Woman fts by saying other characters touched the character Wonder Woman blitzed. This didn't start in the Mangog thread, this started when I posted Wonder Woman tying Amazo up and you mentioning GL and Batman cutting his legs. That's where it started because you're a troll.
Originally posted by carver9
Naah, Dark, you're just a troll. You discredited all of Wonder Woman fts by saying other characters touched the character Wonder Woman blitzed. This didn't start in the Mangog thread, this started when I posted Wonder Woman tying Amazo up and you mentioning GL and Batman cutting his legs. That's where it started because you're a troll.
Using YOUR definition, Batman and GL 'blitzed' Amazo. Canary (oh there she is again) and Black Lightning 'blitzed' Amazo.
Using YOUR definition lmao
Originally posted by carver9
And you're still doing it because you're a troll. This is why I mentioned Jon and Kara blitzing Zod. It's the same sh**.
I mean.....you coming up with additional examples to bolster my point isn't the flex you think it is my man.
PIS exists. We agree, y/n?
Because it exists - even in the Amazo showings - we should be cautious about relying them as some kind of gotcha. Remember what I said?
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
You're not understanding my point.It depends on the number of showings they have, total.
Billy has quite a few showings. So his feats need to be taken into account, more than his fights.
Gladiator does not (relative to Billy). So his fights count for much more than his feats. He is the same like Orion, who has even fewer showings still.
Hulk has TONS of showings. So his fights and feats are all equal(ish) in weighting.
IOW: if a character has very few appearances (LT, In-Betweener, Orion, Galactus) then their fights are a better gauge of their power.
The more showings a character has, and the more they start interacting with other characters, the more their fights get diluted. Lobo is a good example, as are the Lanterns. You yourself acknowledge, in team books Lobo is less impressive. Lanterns are terrible against bricks. That's when their feats become more of a gauge, where writers don't have to dilute them. Batman and Cap are also good examples of this.
Amazo's been used so much to the point he can be as fast as Flash, 'faster than Clark', as fast as WW - then get blitzed by humans. Sometimes on the same page.
YOU are the one who says he never uses character statements. Then come in here all puffed up, using statements when the actual feats are....mixed.
Originally posted by carver9Much like how Amazo being tagged by Wonder Woman is a non ft because Wonder Woman was ragdolled by Mongul.
So we agree that Kara being hit by Zod and Mongul being hit by Zod is a no ft because Zod was tagged by both Supergirl AND slow armor Jon. With that said what fts does Zod have that compares to Wonder Woman blocking ongoing heat vision attacks?
This is just your own argument parroted back to you.
Originally posted by Smurph
Much like how Amazo being tagged by Wonder Woman is a non ft because Wonder Woman was ragdolled by Mongul.This is just your own argument parroted back to you.
That's Darksaint argument. I didn't discredit Zod showings until you all did this with WW. YOU ALL ARE THE ONES DISCREDITING WONDER WOMAN SPEED FTS BECAUSE AMAZO WAS BACKSTABBED BY OTHER CHARACTERS.
So again, what fts outside of fights since PIS exists does Zod have that is comparable to Wonder Woman blocking heat vision
Originally posted by carver9You can't have it both ways. You can either accept Zod one shotting a charging Supergirl and blitzing Mongul or you can give up Wonder Woman tagging Amazo. Your call.
That's Darksaint argument. I didn't discredit Zod showings until you all did this with WW. YOU ALL ARE THE ONES DISCREDITING WONDER WOMAN SPEED FTS BECAUSE AMAZO WAS BACKSTABBED BY OTHER CHARACTERS.So again, what fts outside of fights since PIS exists does Zod have that is comparable to Wonder Woman blocking heat vision
Originally posted by carver9You're trying to make the argument out of one side of your mouth while the other side of your mouth is bitching about Darksaint saying the exact same thing.
Read my reply again. Read it twice, please.
Again, which is it? Wonder Woman tagging Amazo is PIS or Zod oneshotting Kara is fair game?