Originally posted by carver9He moved faster than Mongul could react in the middle of dialogue with Mongul while Mongul was looking at him. And he punched him into orbit. How is that not the *definition* of blitz?
And Zod sneaked attack Mongul. Lmmfao. I'm guessing you missed that part. Same scenario.
Originally posted by Smurph
He moved faster than Mongul could react in the middle of dialogue with Mongul while Mongul was looking at him. And he punched him into orbit. How is that not the *definition* of blitz?
Originally posted by Smurph
He moved faster than Mongul could react in the middle of dialogue with Mongul while Mongul was looking at him. And he punched him into orbit. How is that not the *definition* of blitz?
Lol... Diana moved as fast as Amazo could react 🤣🤣🤣
And he was looking right at her.
Originally posted by carver9You're the one who said a sneak attack isn't a blitz, while trying to boast about Diana moving to (in her words) take Amazo by surprise.
Lol... Diana moved as fast as Amazo could react 🤣🤣🤣
A tactic she resorted to because she wasn't fast enough to take him head on.
It's your definition of blitz that keeps changing to suit your argument. But under any of the definitions, Zod categorically and casually blitzed someone who has repeatedly thrashed Wonder Woman.
Originally posted by Smurph
You're the one who said a sneak attack isn't a blitz, while trying to boast about Diana moving to (in her words) take Amazo by surprise.A tactic she resorted to because she wasn't fast enough to take him head on.
It's your definition of blitz that keeps changing to suit your argument. But under any of the definitions, Zod categorically and casually blitzed someone who has repeatedly thrashed Wonder Woman.
That's not what I'm saying here. You're bring up Mongul grabbing Wonder Woman leg, so i countered it with Superman getting knocked TF out by Mongul. You then mention Zod blitzing Mongul before he could complete a sentence. I said Wonder Woman did the same thing to someone with FAR superior speed before he could complete a sentence, and while he was prepping up to attack AND she wrapped him up before he could even finish his sentence or knew what was going on AND Wonder Woman speed was mentioned yet again in this scene, AAAANNNNDDDD Amazo had Superman and Flash speed stacked on each other.
Originally posted by carver9Reread your own post. I made a point about Wonder Woman, who is in this thread, you "countered" with Superman, who isn't in this thread.
That's not what I'm saying here. You're bring up Mongul grabbing Wonder Woman leg, so i countered it with Superman getting knocked TF out by Mongul. You then mention Zod blitzing Mongul before he could complete a sentence. I said Wonder Woman did the same thing to someone with FAR superior speed before he could complete a sentence, and while he was prepping up to attack AND she wrapped him up before he could even finish his sentence or knew what was going on AND Wonder Woman speed was mentioned yet again in this scene, AAAANNNNDDDD Amazo had Superman and Flash speed stack on each other.
I keep bringing it back to Wonder Woman vs Mongul compared to Zod vs Mongul because Wonder Woman and Zod are both in this thread.
Zod has never faced Amazo, and you keep trying to go back to that well by ignoring all the context that you would insist were relevant for any other character. And then if DS or I rub your face in that context, you switch debate points until you circle back to this.
We have no comparator of Zod vs Amazo, or Flash, or omega beams. We do have comparators in Mongul, and Supergirl, and Kyle Rayner. All those comparisons decisively favour Zod.
Originally posted by Smurph
Reread your own post. I made a point about Wonder Woman, who is in this thread, you "countered" with Superman, who isn't in this thread.I keep bringing it back to Wonder Woman vs Mongul compared to Zod vs Mongul because Wonder Woman and Zod are both in this thread.
Zod has never faced Amazo, and you keep trying to go back to that well by ignoring all the context that you would insist were relevant for any other character. And then if DS or I rub your face in that context, you switch debate points until you circle back to this.
We have no comparator of Zod vs Amazo, or Flash, or omega beams. We do have comparators in Mongul, and Supergirl, and Kyle Rayner. All those comparisons decisively favour Zod.
Is this you?
Originally posted by Smurph
Otherwise, Zod catching Superman's fist means he is "several times" faster than Superman.You sure you want to make that argument?
Also, he didn't dodge her here. He also took a beating from Jon in a battle armor in the next issue...
Not sure if the comment was at me, but how am I twisting anything? YOU literally posted the comic panel:
We literally see that his thinking speed is nowhere near his action speed. I'm not twisting anything - he can't even process the word 'Situation' before he can get all those words out.
What am I twisting?
Originally posted by carver9
That the same page, it was mentioned that he posses Flash speed, AND she blitzed him before he completed his MOUTH sentence. I don't know how his computer brain operates but she blitzed him before he finished his sentence.
Ok so you don't know, yet you are asserting that it operates at a high speed? I mean I am literally showing you how slow it is, lol. Is this a time where statements =/= what we see on the page?
Originally posted by carver9What?
Is this you?
Zod vs Superman is relevant. Zod vs Mongul is relevant. Wonder Woman vs Mongul is relevant.
"Countering" Wonder Woman vs Mongul with Superman vs Mongul is... irrelevant.
Are you keeping up?
Originally posted by carver9You're right, that's not that the panel when he intercepted her charge with a single punch that KO'd her.
Also, he didn't dodge her here.
Let me know if you still have trouble finding the relevant scan.
Also, how dare you bring Krypto into this. He nearly killed Mongul in a single bite:
https://imgur.com/a/KsxZ6
And don't forget him doing more damage than most of the DCU to Superboy Prime.
Originally posted by Smurph
What?Zod vs Superman is relevant. Zod vs Mongul is relevant. Wonder Woman vs Mongul is relevant.
"Countering" Wonder Woman vs Mongul with Superman vs Mongul is... irrelevant.
Are you keeping up?
You're right, that's not that the panel when he intercepted her charge with a single punch that KO'd her.
Let me know if you still have trouble finding the relevant scan.
And Wonder Woman fight against Mongul is PIS since she is faster than him. Same issue, Zod got blitzed by a Kryptonian armor that was being operated by Jon. Twice!!! How fast do you think Supergirl was operating there?
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Also, how dare you bring Krypto into this. He nearly killed Mongul in a single bite:
https://imgur.com/a/KsxZ6And don't forget him doing more damage than most of the DCU to Superboy Prime.
Is Krypto faster than Supergirl? If so, let's compare fts.
Originally posted by carver9😂 😂
And Wonder Woman fight against Mongul is PIS since she is faster than him. Same issue, Zod got blitzed by a Kryptonian armor that was being operated by Jon. Twice!!! How fast do you think Supergirl was operating there?
You've officially watered down "blitz" to mean any hit landed on any character.
Which means Black Canary truly blitzed Amazo. Congrats on clutching your feat so hard that you made it worthless 👆