Originally posted by carver9
The tiara went back to her hand after she sliced his throat (and let's not forget that she casually sliced his throat by the way). I'm just trying to figure out why you're asking me what kind of damage she could've done to him "with a weapon".🤷🏿
Originally posted by leonidas
yeah of course i'm not saying ww>superman. just arguing what happened here. i don't think it's pis. in a full on battle she would have a chance to beat him imo--it just wouldn't happen often. like i think she could beat zod, just not as often as he'd beat her.
Originally posted by Smurph
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Coco signed, phags
Edit: let's just sit back for a second and marvel at how badly this backfired for poor Carver.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
👆Coco signed, phags
Edit: let's just sit back for a second and marvel at how badly this backfired for poor Carver.
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might as well marvel at the sunrise 👆
as for how strong--somewhere between ww and superman...? anyone wanna start a second sh!tstorm and suggest a marvel parallel...? how about ss...? 😖hifty:
Originally posted by abhilegendYes, she did beat him. Your flatearther-like denialism on fully display here. And despite your futile attempt to ignore the issue where the fight actually took place, the next issue even reinforces that.
She didn't beat Superman in Sacrifice either, as shown directly in the very next issue.He's literally never incapacitated
Superman on his knees with his throat cut and gurgling blood isn't incapacitated? Wonder Woman decided to focus on Maxwell Lord to free Superman from mind control rather than press her attack on Superman and kill him because... surprise... she's not trying to kill Superman, she's been trying to free him throughout the entire fight while holding back?
What delusional pixiedust candyland Bizarro-world fantasy do you live in pretending that Superman wasn't beaten?
Originally posted by abhilegendAnd Wonder Woman's opinion is one I'd actually agree with. While holding back without trying to kill him and he's utterly bloodlusted, she can only hold him off for so long. She could've stopped holding back and just killed him. But Wonder Woman would never kill Superman as he's one of her dearest friends and the greatest hero in DC. If the positions were switched, that'd still hold true.
and she straight up says that if Lord gets control of Superman again, he'd surely kill her.
Originally posted by abhilegend👆
Sacrifice showed a holding back Wonder Woman barely survive against a bloodlusted Superman
And Wonder Woman isn't holding back in this thread. And Zod would get his sh1t pushed in by a bloodlusted Superman. Obvious is obvious.
Originally posted by ODG
Yes, she did beat him. Your flatearther-like denialism on fully display here. And despite your futile attempt to ignore the issue where the fight actually took place, the next issue even reinforces that.
To beat Superman, she must incapacitate him, that never happened.
Superman on his knees with his throat cut and gurgling blood isn't incapacitated? Wonder Woman decided to focus on Maxwell Lord to free Superman from mind control rather than press her attack on Superman and kill him because... surprise... she's not trying to kill Superman, she's been trying to free him throughout the entire fight while holding back?
He's not on his knees as the next issue shows and is already moving before she snaps Lord's neck. He's not even bothered by the cut on his neck as well.
Your incapacity to view pictures is astounding.
What delusional pixiedust candyland Bizarro-world fantasy do you live in pretending that Superman wasn't beaten? And Wonder Woman's opinion is one I'd actually agree with. While holding back without trying to kill him and he's utterly bloodlusted, she can only hold him off for so long.
She could've stopped holding back and just killed him. But Wonder Woman would never kill Superman as he's one of her dearest friends and the greatest hero in DC. If the positions were switched, that'd still hold true. 👆
She never even claims she could kill him. Holding back or not. You just made it up.
And Wonder Woman isn't holding back in this thread. And Zod would get his sh1t pushed in by a bloodlusted Superman. Obvious is obvious.
Wonder Woman has already confirmed she can't bear Superman straight up in Justice League : A league of one. Nothing in Sacrifice shows otherwise.
Originally posted by abhilegendBloodlusted Superman on his knees with his throat cut and gurgling due to holding back Wonder Woman's deft tiara-toss after an issue-long brawl:
To beat Superman, she must incapacitate him
Deny the plain presentation of the comics, sure.
But then I insist that you go ahead and imagine how much worse this scenario would be if this were a bloodlusted Superman versus a bloodlusted Wonder Woman who wasn't holding back. And then how much worse it would be if it were a normal Superman versus a bloodlusted Wonder Woman. And then how much worse it would be if it were a holding back Superman versus a bloodlusted Wonder Woman.
Because, yknow, the Sacrifice fight involved a bloodlusted Superman fighting a holding back Wonder Woman. On-panel. Once you accept true context, I am happy to discuss this actual thread topic.
That is... if you haven't self-combusted due to uncontrollable butthurt indignancy over such undeniably on-panel fact.
Up to you, pal. 👆
Originally posted by ODG
Bloodlusted Superman on his knees with his throat cut and gurgling due to holding back Wonder Woman's deft tiara-toss after an issue-long brawl:Deny the plain presentation of the comics, sure.
Yawn, I already proved you wrong, he wasn't on his knees and the wound didn't have any impact on his speech.
Originally posted by abhilegend
[B]Also Superman was just released from Lord's mind control, that was the reason he stopped.https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-XvOkLAL4jkg/Vnf0mT3RXmI/AAAAAAAAICQ/fB8XNgmngUg/s1600-Ic42/RCO020.jpg
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-i69AC86Bcbo/Vnf0mgIqaxI/AAAAAAAAICQ/lrK7RpFH8m4/s1600-Ic42/RCO021.jpgIn fact the very next comic shows Superman healed and lunging at Wonder Woman before she broke Lord's neck.
Serious damage, lol. Not only he's not on his knees, he's not even that much bothered by the small cut on his neck as seen in the third scan.
Repeating the same thing over and over wouldn't change anything.
But then I insist that you go ahead and imagine how much worse this scenario would be if this were a bloodlusted Superman versus a bloodlusted Wonder Woman who wasn't holding back.
She's gonna be dead? The only reason she survived is because she ran away from him to go to Max Lord, she even says that if Lord regains control of Superman, he's surely gonna kill her.
And then how much worse it would be if it were a normal Superman versus a bloodlusted Wonder Woman. And then how much worse it would be if it were a holding back Superman versus a bloodlusted Wonder Woman.
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We have seen Superman vs Wonder Woman who was trying to kill him. It didn't end up well for her.
Because, yknow, the Sacrifice fight involved a bloodlusted Superman fighting a holding back Wonder Woman. On-panel. Once you accept true context, I am happy to discuss this actual thread topic.
Lol, where she might as well be Spiderman fighting Juggernaut, he was so much stronger than her. She tried everything from kryptonite to gouging eyes, kneeing him in groin, cheapshots from behind and he just kept breaking her bones and knocking her out in one punch.
That is... if you haven't self-combusted due to uncontrollable
butthurtindignancy over such undeniably on-panel fact.Up to you, pal. 👆 [/B]
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We can do this all year.
^ Somehow, you pretend that doesn't mean Superman was incapacitated.
I don't have to disprove that a bloodlusted Superman was incapacitated because it's plainly obvious.
You have to prove that despite being reduced to his knees, throat cut, gurgling blood, before a holding back Wonder Woman, somehow... Superman wasn't incapacitated. And you just post scans reinforcing same.
Heck, I mean... if Superman weren't incapacitated, he should've saved Maxwell Lord. And according to your scans, he couldn't. That's disproving your tenuous argument bald insistence.
There's nothing to argue about. You can insist on disagreeing but, well, I insist that you go ahead and imagine how much worse this scenario would be if this were a bloodlusted Superman versus a bloodlusted Wonder Woman who wasn't holding back. And then how much worse it would be if it were a normal Superman versus a bloodlusted Wonder Woman. And then how much worse it would be if it were a holding back Superman versus a bloodlusted Wonder Woman.
I only insist if that doesn't result in you spontaneously combusting out of sheer butthurt though.
Originally posted by abhilegendYes, well. All of KMC knows you can do it for 200+ posts across 10+ years so long as you hide behind the ignore function where you know you are safe from my replying to you.
We can do this all year.
I am testing whether you can do so directly in the face of actual discussion and the withering deconstruction that ensues.
kinda
Originally posted by ODG
^ Somehow, you pretend that doesn't mean Superman was incapacitated.I don't have to disprove that a bloodlusted Superman was incapacitated because it's plainly obvious.
He wasn't, blatantly shown lol. Only an idiot would see something as obvious but ignore it.
You have to prove that despite being reduced to his knees, throat cut, gurgling blood, before a holding back Wonder Woman, somehow... Superman wasn't incapacitated. And you just post scans reinforcing same.
He wasn't on his knees and the throat wound wasn't even an inconvenience for him. Straight from the next issue lol.
Heck, I mean... if Superman weren't incapacitated, he should've saved Maxwell Lord. And according to your scans, he couldn't. That's disproving your
tenuous argumentbald insistence.
Diana broke the mental control, why would he save Lord?
There's nothing to argue about. You can insist on disagreeing but, well, I insist that you go ahead and imagine how much worse this scenario would be if this were a bloodlusted Superman versus a bloodlusted Wonder Woman who wasn't holding back. And then how much worse it would be if it were a normal Superman versus a bloodlusted Wonder Woman. And then how much worse it would be if it were a holding back Superman versus a bloodlusted Wonder Woman.
Yes, she'd end up dead. We saw her fight him physically, it wasn't even close. The only reason she survived is because she ran away from him.
I only insist if that doesn't result in you spontaneously combusting out of sheer butthurt though.
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So much for cordiality, huh?
Originally posted by ODG
Yes, well. All of KMC knows you can do it for 200+ posts across 10+ years so long as you hide behind the ignore function where you know you are safe from my replying to you.I am testing whether you can do so directly in the face of actual discussion and the withering deconstruction that ensues.
kinda
Back to this, so soon?
Originally posted by abhilegendon his knees, throat cut, blood gurgling...
He was
... and as you also posted was unable to prevent Wonder Woman from murdering Maxwell Lord.
Incapacitated is incapacitated. Means even more given Superman was bloodlusted and Wonder Woman was holding back. Would've been even worse if it were the other way around.
Originally posted by abhilegendWhy wouldn't I remind you of your obsessive 10+ year crusade of trolling after me while ignored? Nobody forced you to do that for 200+ posts. Across 10+ years. That was you. Sh1t, mang. You were ignored even.
Back to this, so soon?
So when you proclaim that you will pursue this particular nonsensical debate "all year"... how does that empty proclamation compare in the face of that history?
It's cringe. So were the 200+ posts across 10+ years. But you doubling down on your own insistent obsession? Yeah... we know you're obsessed, pal. And your obsession apparently has little to do with actual constructive debate given that you apparently posted more while ignored than when you weren't ignored.
Self-awareness, pal. Get some.
Originally posted by ODG
on his knees, throat cut, blood gurgling...
Not on his knees.
... and as you also posted was unable to prevent Wonder Woman from murdering Maxwell Lord.
He was able to pin her down effortlessly right afterwards lol.
Incapacitated is incapacitated.
Means even more given Superman was bloodlusted and Wonder Woman was holding back. Would've been even worse if it were the other way around.
Why wouldn't I remind you of your obsessive 10+ year crusade of trolling after me while ignored? Nobody forced you to do that for 200+ posts. Across 10+ years. That was you. Sh1t, mang. You were ignored even.
Yes, I laughed at you. Because you were and still are a laughing stock for me.
So when you proclaim that you will pursue this particular nonsensical debate "all year"... how does that empty proclamation compare in the face of that history?
It's cringe. So were the 200+ posts across 10+ years. But you doubling down on your own insistent obsession? Yeah... we know you're obsessed, pal. And your obsession apparently has little to do with actual constructive debate given that you apparently posted more while ignored than when you weren't ignored.
Self-awareness, pal. Get some.
I laughed at a clown like you, you got butthurt. I still laugh at you, you get more butthurt. Stop being a dipshit clown and I will stop laughing.
Originally posted by ODG
You have to prove that despite being reduced to his knees, throat cut, gurgling blood, before a holding back Wonder Woman, somehow... Superman wasn't incapacitated. And you just post scans reinforcing same.
Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998On his knees, throat cut, blood gurgling, despite trying to kill her....
Because he wasn't? Like even in the latest page you posted, the following scene is Superman immediately stands up, and talks to Diana and then flies etc
I wouldn't call it "incapacitated"
https://ibb.co/7xVFPPFG
https://ibb.co/wh7wWSL7
https://ibb.co/KxBk24nV
... and as you also posted was unable to prevent Wonder Woman from murdering Maxwell Lord.
Incapacitated is incapacitated. Means even more given Superman was bloodlusted and Wonder Woman was holding back trying to focus on Maxwell Lord. Imagine if her attention wasn't divided btw a bloodlusted Superman and Maxwell Lord and she was free to lasso Superman instead of paying any mind to Maxwell.
Then just realize that if you simply reversed Diana and Clark's positions, there'd be absolutely no equivocation over whether Diana was incapacitated. This is just simple blind buttthurt in the face of the comics. Go ahead and pretend otherwise. But stop wasting my time. Nobody is forcing you to respond to me.
Originally posted by ODG
Incapacitated is incapacitated.
Incapacitated means "empty of strength," "helpless," or "powerless."
Furthermore, if that can be called "Incapacitated", then how about WW is knocked out and lying on the ground for a while before? Does this also count as "Incapacitated" IYO?
https://ibb.co/DgfVKBB5
https://ibb.co/nsZb0K0c
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Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998In your warped fairydust pixieland world, sure. Because if after an entire issue of holding back, a restrained Superman had rendered a bloodlusted Wonder Woman to her knees and instead of doubling down on it was wholly focused on preaching to Dr. Psycho to release his mind influence over her, you'd pretend that Superman didn't have her dead to rights... on her knees, throat cut, gurgling blood...
That it's not what "Incapacitated" means though.
N1gga plz. Maybe spend your time inner-monologuing with abihilegend to mend his ripped anus.
