Darkseid vs Wraith fist fight

Started by carver97 pages

Based off pure fts, Rebirth Superman is nowhere near New 52 Superman. The only Superman to date that is even close to this version of Superman is Pre Crisis, and that's looking directly at ft. I don't know why you keep bringing up that lame a** 6th dimension ft, especially pitting it against New 52 Supes. They probably did combine but current Supes has nothing close to his showings and appear to be weaker.

Post the five best N52 Superman feats, and prove that Superman shattering the planet whilst dying is nowhere near them😂

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
And what about this thread, did you get the scans mixed up?

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=688407&pagenumber=36#post17743424

Also, this.

You know I will keep on at this, Carvy!

How big was that tiny planet he shattered but not destroyed?

Step by step, you know I will force feed you lmao.

Firstly:

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
And what about this thread, did you get the scans mixed up?

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=688407&pagenumber=36#post17743424

Originally posted by carver9
Wraith is stronger than the strongest version of Superman we've ever seen on panel.
the premise of this thread was so he can say this.

Originally posted by carver9
Looking at fts, that's a lie.

What feats does Wraith have to show he's stronger than Superman? He gets more energy from the sun and that's how he's stronger than Superman.

https://imgur.com/ylMWkS1.jpg

Same thing was stated for Rebirth Superman who was weakened.

Carver will reply that he is only looking at feats, abhi. So we need to first understand his viewpoint.

Carver, in your answer to abhi, please list the top 5 n52 strength feats, please.

Originally posted by abhilegend
What feats does Wraith have to show he's stronger than Superman? He gets more energy from the sun and that's how he's stronger than Superman.

https://imgur.com/ylMWkS1.jpg

Same thing was stated for Rebirth Superman who was weakened.

Ignoring the fact that he broke Superman bones in a single hit, this...

So statements? Abhi asked for feats, O Carveriffic one.

WW said that Flash was an indistinct blur to her.

Where are the top 5 n52 Superman strength feats? Do you not have them, or do you only read respect threads?

Lol...statements, him treating Superman like fodder and Superman having to weaken him to stand a chance and again, break his ribs, easily. What more do you want? Him bench pressing earth? Your entire debating style lately has been garbage.

Originally posted by carver9
Ignoring the fact that he broke Superman bones in a single hit, this...


Those aren't feats, just statements lol. Just like the statement for Rebirth Superman.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Those aren't feats, just statements lol. Just like the statement for Rebirth Superman.

You already know his fts. Tossing Superman out like trash and breaking his ribs like he is a low Herald. Wonder Woman fts piss on Mongul but you all sure did have an easy time ignoring them just to give Mongul an edge.

Originally posted by carver9
Lol...statements, him treating Superman like fodder and Superman having to weaken him to stand a chance and again, break his ribs, easily. What more do you want? Him bench pressing earth? Your entire debating style lately has been garbage.

If the style is 'garbage', it is only because I am parroting your own style back at you, lmao.

In one thread, you ignore WW's statements.

In THIS thread, you jizz all over Superman's statements.

You are being hypocritical.

Once Wraith had none of his more fancy powers, Superman beat him up:

In Superman's words, without his special powers, just using his speed and strength, they're evenly matched.

Lemme guess though, Superman's words don't count?

And again, for like the 4th time asking - name the top 5 n52 Superman feats that make you say Rebirth is nowehere near him.

Originally posted by carver9
and Superman having to weaken him to stand a chance

Didn't the core of the Earth only affected Wraith's magnetic powers? And Superman beats Wraith once Wraith's extra powers are nullified(I.E, Superman actually overpowers Wraith in a fist fight)
https://ibb.co/4P33dcb
https://ibb.co/8jbbXL7
https://ibb.co/F05Fg96
https://ibb.co/Gxz79w4
https://ibb.co/cw5gf5k
https://ibb.co/DGfpt2b
https://ibb.co/1094nd7

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Didn't the core of the Earth only affected Wraith's magnetic powers? And Superman beats Wraith once Wraith's extra powers are nullified(I.E, Superman actually overpowers Wraith in a fist fight)
https://ibb.co/4P33dcb
https://ibb.co/8jbbXL7
https://ibb.co/F05Fg96
https://ibb.co/Gxz79w4
https://ibb.co/cw5gf5k
https://ibb.co/DGfpt2b
https://ibb.co/1094nd7

Just to note that Superman is weakened here, too. So a weakened, not at 100% Superman, beat the crap out of Wraith despite Wraith having all of his strength and speed.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
If the style is 'garbage', it is only because I am parroting your own style back at you, lmao.

In one thread, you ignore WW's statements.

In THIS thread, you jizz all over Superman's statements.

You are being hypocritical.

Once Wraith had none of his more fancy powers, Superman beat him up:

In Superman's words, without his special powers, just using his speed and strength, they're evenly matched.

Lemme guess though, Superman's words don't count?

And again, for like the 4th time asking - name the top 5 n52 Superman feats that make you say Rebirth is nowehere near him.


It so funny that Carver chooses to create a fist fight situation, which is where Superman defeated Wraith, and wants to argue that Wraith is stronger than Superman

Meanwhile, just to remind people what Darkseid did:

n52 Superman is stronger than Rebirth? Even assuming IF IF IF he is (which carver keeps running away from), is he stronger than Rebirth and KC Superman COMBINED?

And then, and then, even IF IF IF he is (lol), he would have to be significantly stronger than the two, COMBINED. Because the two Supermen COMBINED weren't even making DS flinch. He was literally no-selling them. If IF IF Rebirth Superman is 100, KC is 110, then n52 Superman/Wraith would have to be 300-350 just to fight DS, lol. They can't *just* be stronger than Rebirth+KC, they have to be significantly stronger than them.

Great thread, Carvy. Now go ahead and prove that n52 Superman/Wraith are significantly stronger than those two Supermen combined, without statements (because with statements, it looks even worse for you). Statements are all well and good, but we saw what the results were - Wraith, without his fancier powers, was beaten by Superman.

Unless a weaker, slower Superman beat a stronger, faster Wraith? ABC logic suddenly doesn't work now, or does it?

Where did Superman say they are evenly matched.? He said it's a fair fight. Superman just out fought him. Wraith didn't use any fancy powers on Superman, he physically beat on him.

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Didn't the core of the Earth only affected Wraith's magnetic powers? And Superman beats Wraith once Wraith's extra powers are nullified(I.E, Superman actually overpowers Wraith in a fist fight)
https://ibb.co/4P33dcb
https://ibb.co/8jbbXL7
https://ibb.co/F05Fg96
https://ibb.co/Gxz79w4
https://ibb.co/cw5gf5k
https://ibb.co/DGfpt2b
https://ibb.co/1094nd7

He couldn't do that when Wraith had his full powers. Wraith even fell to the ground which pretty much shows more was at play there. He was weakened.