Darkseid vs Wraith fist fight

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
That's before Superman punched him to the Moon, where then Superman says he was fading and Wraith resorted to Kryptonite, no?

Also, care to explain how Superman can beat Wraith in a fist fight like pages after?

He was literally toying with him. I don't know what made you think he just stopped all of a sudden. He didn't see Superman as a threat.

Why is he in pain here?

Why is he powerless to the point of being unable to escape this area?

He was weakened. Even playing field, Superman was nothing.

Originally posted by carver9
Why is he powerless to the point of being unable to escape this area?

He was weakened. Even playing field, Superman was nothing.

He was unable to escape because he was KOd, Carv.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
DS shouldn't fire his black hole bullets, then.

At the end of the day, what's the summary here? That Wraith is more durable/stronger/faster than n52 Superman, who in turn is.....[b]signifcantly stronger than Rebirth Superman and KC Superman combined?

N52 Superman then turning around and fighting Wraith when all his fancier powers were turned off, and beating him when only strength/speed/wits remained, kinda shows statements don't mean much. Sure, he broke Superman's ribs when he had his fancy powers, but it shows he didn't do it on pure strength alone (otherwise, well, he would've done the same to a Superman who was already injured).

And at the end of the day, DS still just walked casually through a barrage of desperate blows from two Supermen, without even flinching. Casually backhanded a speeding Flash attempting to blitz, without even looking at him. You cannot deny this, carver.

Darkseid stomps here. Wraith being stronger than n52 Superman (based on statements, otherwise Carver is forced to admit the fight was PIS since a slower/weaker Superman defeated Wraith) doesn't mean anything, unless he can show Wraith being SIGNIFICANTLY stronger than two Supermen.

And he can't. [/B]

Darkseid, he PHYSICALLY broke his rib. He didn't use any fancy powers to do that. Do you have anything comparable to that?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
He was unable to escape because he was KOd, Carv.

He's still there. I'm guessing he is still koed? Nothing points to him escaping and Superman even states he will remain down there.

Darkseid, no diff.

Originally posted by carver9
He's still there. I'm guessing he is still koed? Nothing points to him escaping and Superman even states he will remain down there.

What do you mean he is still there?

Originally posted by carver9

Why is he in pain here?

Originally posted by carver9

Why is he powerless to the point of being unable to escape this area?

@Dark

I think he is in earths core. Did we receive anything confirming him not being there?

Originally posted by carver9
Darkseid, he PHYSICALLY broke his rib. He didn't use any fancy powers to do that. Do you have anything comparable to that?

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Because he suddenly lost his fancy powers(but not his other physical powers)?

Because he was koed by Superman?

So he was hurt? He was holding his chest the page after that.

So he's still koed after all of this time?

Originally posted by carver9
He's still there. I'm guessing he is still koed? Nothing points to him escaping and Superman even states he will remain down there.

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Except Kryptonite radiation you mean

This is where Wraith broke 2 ribs. Show me proof kryptonite was used here. Maybe you should read the comic again...

Originally posted by carver9
So he was hurt? He was holding his chest the page after that.

So he's still koed after all of this time?

Yes, what proofs do you have for otherwise?

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
If someone punched you down at your home, and you can't get up because the beating you get, it doesn't mean your house is weakening you

Lol... No. He's down there because he weakened. Someone with his strength and speed should EASILY be able to escape from there.

Originally posted by carver9
This is where Wraith broke 2 ribs. Show me proof kryptonite was used here. Maybe you should read the comic again...

So even in this instance, he still resorts to use his fancy powers
And later, he used Kryptonite radiation to do so(still not entirely physical powers)
https://ibb.co/5YgsNc4
https://ibb.co/61m0p6T

Originally posted by carver9
Lol... No. He's down there because he weakened. Someone with his strength and speed should EASILY be able to escape from there.

Originally posted by carver9
@Dark

I think he is in earths core. Did we receive anything confirming him not being there?

Yeah, the next issue has him in space.
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Am I reading something wrong??

Originally posted by carver9
Lol... No. He's down there because he weakened. Someone with his strength and speed should EASILY be able to escape from there.

Yeah, once he wakes up from the beating Superman gave him, sure.

Carver.....did you actually read the comic or are you just relying on respect threads?

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Didn't just before the scan you posted, the Wraith used his fancy powers(controlling EM)?
https://ibb.co/8cLwW4V
https://ibb.co/Lg6p5dw

So even in this instance, he still resorts to use his fancy powers
And later, he used Kryptonite radiation to do so(still not entirely physical powers)
https://ibb.co/5YgsNc4
https://ibb.co/61m0p6T

No fancy powers were used 😆

😂

Carver if you need to flee this thread, you could run back to the Zod thread.