Apoc vs Thanos

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Apoc vs Thanos

Movie Versions

Fight1: Thanos gets his endgame gear (armor, dual sword, etc)

If that's a stomp for Thanos then
Fight2: Thanos is weaponless.

No speedup shenanigans from Apoc and both fight at their natural normal speeds.

Fight starts with both 20 feet apart.

Hard to.say, Im thinking Apoc might actually win this, but he's never faced someone this physically powerful... His transmutation powers are very powerful though.

Apoc has a shot here with his versatile powers. Thanos without the gems is just a brick. It took the Phoenix to put Apoc down.

Yewah Apoc should win.

En Sabah slaughters Thanos without his trinkets

Without the IG, Thanos is heavily outmatched. Apocalypse's forcefield has tanked far more damage than Thanos can output with physical force alone. He's got matter manipulation on an insane level. He moved pyramids with TK meaning he can manipulate hundreds of thousands of tons. He could also just mind f*ck him since he was strong enough to take over Xavier. And on the chance Thanos actually hurts him, he'll just heal from it. Apoc has to actively not fight to lose.

Can Thanos kill him with his sword right at the start of the fight - behead him or cut him in half, something like that?

Doubt it, Apoc was able to see and grab Quicksilver, the one that was way faster than the MCU version. Thanos isn't even 1% of that in terms of speed.

Originally posted by Thinkerer
Doubt it, Apoc was able to see and grab Quicksilver, the one that was way faster than the MCU version. Thanos isn't even 1% of that in terms of speed.

He'd also have to make it through his forcefield to actually hit him. Quicksilver only did it because he's one of the fastest people to ever live.

With a thought Apoc could sink Thanos into the ground to his neck and then mind-rape him. Thanos' mind couldn't resist Mantis, while Apoc's telepathy surpasses Xavier's.

Originally posted by Thinkerer
Doubt it, Apoc was able to see and grab Quicksilver, the one that was way faster than the MCU version. Thanos isn't even 1% of that in terms of speed.
From the OP
"No speedup shenanigans from Apoc and both fight at their natural normal speeds."

What do you mean speedup shenanigans? His superhuman senses and reflexes allow him to stop even guys like Quicksilver dead in their tracks... That are his capabilities.

lol yeah wth is a speed up shenanigan here.

Trust h1a8 to make nonsensical rules.

Apoc has his super senses and reaction time removed for this fight. He still wins due to his vast array of powers, but it's telling he has to be gimped.

^ Okay so assume reflexes are equal? Not sure how that makes any difference here given they start off 20 feet apart.

It's just about whether Thanos's durability would hold up or not against Apoc's attacks (seems unlikely).

Apoc has TK, if he lifts Thanos off the ground like S. Witch did, he's screwed. Thanos could throw his sword, but Apoc's shields or TK can stop that.

The only way Thanos wins this is if his durability is strong enough to survive long run and Apoc gets tired at some point.

Originally posted by Thinkerer
What do you mean speedup shenanigans? His superhuman senses and reflexes allow him to stop even guys like Quicksilver dead in their tracks... That are his capabilities.

He somehow accelerated them to match Quicksilver's speed. Quicksilver initially statued him. Apocalypse fights at normal speed here. If that's unclear, Apocalypse and Thanos are fighting with equal speed and perception.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
lol yeah wth is a speed up shenanigan here.

Trust h1a8 to make nonsensical rules.


Nonsensical?

Apoc sped up to match Quicksilver - bad writing. He never starts a fight with that level of speed or perception. If Apoc begins with Quicksilver-level speed and perception, the fight becomes a spite thread. Why are you annoyed that he needs to be limited to keep this an actual fight?

Originally posted by Robtard
Apoc has TK, if he lifts Thanos off the ground like S. Witch did, he's screwed. Thanos could throw his sword, but Apoc's shields or TK can stop that.

The only way Thanos wins this is if his durability is strong enough to survive long run and Apoc gets tired at some point.

Characters fight in character, which means we don't control their actions. Just because a character [b]can/b] do many things doesn’t mean they'll do exactly what you want them to.

For example, I don't see Apocalypse lifting Thanos off the ground and holding him in the air like Scarlet Witch did at the start of their fight.

His forcefield is only as strong as the force it's been shown to stop or stated to stop (with clear intent for the audience). He only used it after a barrage of objects was thrown at him - he didn't open with the shield, he used telekinesis to block the projectiles first and then created a bubble field later.

Thanos is far stronger than anything that's been stopped by that shield. In a forum setting, he can break through it.

Apocalypse might still win, but it would take time since Thanos is too durable for him to reliably hurt.

Originally posted by h1a8
Nonsensical?

Apoc sped up to match Quicksilver - bad writing. He never starts a fight with that level of speed or perception. If Apoc begins with Quicksilver-level speed and perception, the fight becomes a spite thread. Why are you annoyed that he needs to be limited to keep this an actual fight?

He never sped up. He could perceive him and used his other abilities to tag him. He never himself moved at the same speed as Quicksilver. Nor was there any indication that he sped himself up.

Was the same with Dark Phoenix.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
He never sped up. He could perceive him and used his other abilities to tag him. He never himself moved at the same speed as Quicksilver. Nor was there any indication that he sped himself up.

Was the same with Dark Phoenix.

He was completely statued at the start. Quicksilver hit him a billion times before his perception speed adapted to Quicksilver's level. Then, in every other scene in the movie, he operated with normal human-level perception (before and after that scene).