Hal and WW vs Superman

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
No, it's not like those at all.

We know that others can move faster than Hulk, that's why those statements are hyperbolic.

Are you saying Superman has NO feats, zero, nada, over his ENTIRE history (I am not talking about conflicting evidence, I am talking about ZERO evidence) at the nanosecond level?

Hulk has literally slapped every speedster in Marvel. We don't know anything. I just think those are hyperbolic statements about Hulk.

I'm sure there's some fts of Superman possibly moving at nano second speeds just like there's fts of Spiderman out maneuvering attacks coming at him at light speeds. It just happens. This is why I say, consistency is the key.

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So the statement isn't hyperbole if there exists evidence to support it. Thanks.

Hyperbole is with no evidence to support it. Glad we agree that Superman has the evidence to back up the statement.

What other evidence. Just show me one.

Originally posted by carver9
What other evidence. Just show me one.

I asked you, and you said you were sure it existed. Were you wrong?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I asked you, and you said you were sure it existed. Were you wrong?

I wanna see which ones you're referencing. I'm probably wrong about him having those fts.

Please address this Carv. Don't run away

Originally posted by h1a8
It's an "or" - one or the other must be true. Which is it?

Either Superman couldn't exceed the speed of light at that time (meaning the writer was accurate), or he could because he had already done so before that statement (meaning the writer was wrong).

There is enough evidence and general understanding to recognize that the statement "no one moves as fast as Hulk" is hyperbole.

For a statement to be recognized as hyperbole, there must be context or general understanding that it exceeds factual truth, often supported by evidence or common knowledge to the contrary.

Originally posted by carver9
Superman portrayed back then>>>>>>>>>>>>>>now.

It is a power comparison. Superman admitting Cyborg Superman is basically his equals is a display of power. That doesn't mean that he can beat Superman since Superman mindset is>>>>Cyborg.

Again, why Superman admitting Cyborg Superman is his equal isn't hyperbole, despite the fact 1)Superman has beaten CS in the past, 2) CS has no pure strength showings that are at the same level of the high-end strength showings Superman has?

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Even back in Pre-Crisis time, Superman and Flash(Barry)'s speed is highly debatable
Also, you seem to ignore the statement of Superman is unmatched in speed when he is flying. This scan is Rebirth era, which is like just a few years ago

Again, why Superman admitting Cyborg Superman is his equal isn't hyperbole, despite the fact 1)Superman has beaten CS in the past, 2) CS has no pure strength showings that are at the same level of the high-end strength showings Superman has?

Superman being unmatched in speed when he is flying is hyperbole as well. Yes, I would give Superman the edge against Cyborg Superman as well. CS sucks. That doesn't take away from him being as strong and fast as Supes, though. Also, Cyborg Superman isn't flying around moving planets alongside heros and lifting mountains to save a city. Lol... looking at strength fts, Superman>>>>>>Doomsday. Heck, looking at strength fts of lifting, Hyperion and Thor>>>>>Doomsday. You don't want to talk about that, though.

Originally posted by carver9
Superman being unmatched in speed when he is flying is hyperbole as well. Yes, I would give Superman the edge against Cyborg Superman as well. CS sucks. That doesn't take away from him being as strong and fast as Supes, though. Also, Cyborg Superman isn't flying around moving planets alongside heros and lifting mountains to save a city. Lol... looking at strength fts, Superman>>>>>>Doomsday. Heck, looking at strength fts of lifting, Hyperion and Thor>>>>>Doomsday. You don't want to talk about that, though.

So back to the original question, what made you think Superboy's(Superman when he was a boy) statement is hyperbole...when there are other proofs to bakc up this statement

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
So narration isn't immune to hyperbole, right?
Whether a statement is a hyperbole isn't determined by it's made by the narrator or a character

So back to the original question, what made you think Superboy's(Superman when he was a boy) statement is hyperbole...when there are other proofs to bakc up this statement

Narration is immune to hyperbole. Character amplify fts.

Read above. Its just a statement said by a character with no evidence.

Nice.

Cyborg fires with a million decibels.

Glad we agree.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Nice.

Cyborg fires with a million decibels.

Glad we agree.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Nice.

Cyborg fires with a million decibels.

Glad we agree.

I'm ok with this. Cyborg still sucks, though and is at best high meta.

You realize a million decibels would would be like omniverse level, right?

I don't even get why you posted that. Things like this is common with heroes. The blasts that are being shot at Spiderman has been confirmed as light speed Attacks and not only does Spiderman dodge them, he moves faster than his targeting computer...

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I'm not saying Spiderman ft is equal to the above but it is sure as hell above light speed.

Originally posted by Juntai
You realize a million decibels would would be like omniverse level, right?

Yes.

Originally posted by carver9
I don't even get why you posted that. Things like this is common with heroes. The blasts that are being shot at Spiderman has been confirmed as light speed Attacks and not only does Spiderman dodge them, he moves faster than his targeting computer...

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I'm not saying Spiderman ft is equal to the above but it is sure as hell above light speed.

Why is it above lightspeed?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Why is it above lightspeed?

Have to be faster than the attack to dodge it. Then, it was a computerized targeting system aiming at him. I cant think of many Heralds that could replicate the ft.

Originally posted by carver9
Have to be faster than the attack to dodge it. Then, it was a computerized targeting system aiming at him. I cant think of many Heralds that could replicate the ft.

You only need to be a fraction of the speed of a long-range attack to dodge it, since you're covering less distance than the attack in the same amount of time.

Spider-Man often has precognition, allowing him to react just before the attack is even launched.

Originally posted by h1a8
You only need to be a fraction of the speed of a long-range attack to dodge it, since you're covering less distance than the attack in the same amount of time.

Spider-Man often has precognition, allowing him to react just before the attack is even launched.

Its point blank. He's right in front of Spiderman and Spiderman precog has been proven on panel to not go anywhere near the speed of light. Try again.