Originally posted by carver9
Its point blank. He's right in front of Spiderman and Spiderman precog has been proven on panel to not go anywhere near the speed of light. Try again.
You're not getting it.
If you move before the trigger is pulled, you don't need to be as fast as the attack itself-you just need to be faster than the aim.
Point-blank?
Spider-Man only has to move less than a foot to dodge an attack- the attack travels multiple feet.
Originally posted by carver9So he's faster than an unspecified computer's ability to target him.
Have to be faster than the attack to dodge it. Then, it was a computerized targeting system aiming at him. I cant think of many Heralds that could replicate the ft.
How does that make him FTL lmao. If my friend has a torch and I dodge him shining his torch on me, that doesn't make me FTL lol. It just means I'm faster than my friend's ability to target me.
And you have zero idea about what my friend can or cannot do.
Originally posted by carver9Respectfully disagree. You only have to be fast enough to move yourself out of the direction the targeting system locked upon.
Have to be faster than the attack to dodge it. Then, it was a computerized targeting system aiming at him. I cant think of many Heralds that could replicate the ft.
While targeting systems can use light/infrared-based tracking, they can also rely on radar. And radar is essentially speed-of-sound divided by 2 since the ping has to emit out and then bounce back to be received.
And all these systems still have to deal with CPU processing speed to create a tracking target.
And all these systems are still limited by mechanical motor speed that charges up and discharges said projectile.
Which would be further limited if the trigger system is reliant on conscious thought or the literal finger-pulling of a trigger.
Aim-dodging has a lot of constituent components that leave alot of avenues to not stretch our suspension of disbelief. A true FTL reflex feat eliminates all of those possible conditionals.
Which usually is limited to when an artist shows the panel-by-panel progression of a lightspeed beam already being on its path to its target and then the target moving afterwards in the next panel(s).
Originally posted by Galan007He might be.
Is carver going the "any energy beam fired moves at light speed" route with this?
But if you disagree with that, I'd argue the concept of aim-dodging is a more likely resolution to your disagreement than a blanket "any energy beams fired don't move at light speed" notion.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85Don't be so obscenely obtuse:
Why would lasers be given special consideration over energy, lol.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85That's exactly what I said.
Also, all Spidey did in the scan was outspeed an (unknown) targeting computer. Good for him, I guess?
Take care to not spin yourself dizzy and miscontrue what I've said while wasting time trying to run circles around carver9.
Originally posted by carver9To a certain degree, but not Superman’s ridiculous highs. While all Kryptonians are extremely powerful and exceptional, Prime Superman is exceptional among them, and it’s not really close. Even the alternate Clark’s who are their own level of exceptional as well, aren’t as strong as Clark.
@H1...I think Zod could replicate Superman's fts, yes. They are basically the same characters except Zod doesn't hold back. Superman even thinks they are equals. Zod will never be in Superman position of fts because he's no hero but Zod can beat Superman and Superman can beat Zod. I can't give Zod Superman fts though because thats not how this works. So do you think Superman and Zod are close or no? I'm asking for a reason.
Originally posted by ODGyeah he’s got that feat with half his head missing.
^ It's been pointed out to me that Zod's mutilation damage soak feats appear to outstrip Superman's.
If a Superman writer ever tried to get that through editorial, he’d be yanked off the book faster than a speeding bullet.
Supes just tanks damage better.