Aragorn/Arwen vs. Anakin/Padme

A/A was definetly handled better. This is weird cuz i was just watching Fellowship the other day and thinking about how much better it was handled. I got to thinking though, this could simply come down to a maturity level in actors. A/A were played by actors who have had more real life experience and perhaps more to go on. However, I do think it was also written better. If you include AOTC's deleted scenes, then I think A/P was handled well too but Lucas made a poor choice of what to show and what not to. Maybe he should have called up Jackson for some pointers 😄

Yeah, he should have used the scene's from Padme's house...they were good. I agree mephisto 👆

Personally I have to go with Aragorn and Arwen, when you think about it both couples have many striking similarities.

With A/A their love is frowned upon by some, namely Arwen's father Elrond, this is because of his love for her and he not wanting to see her hurt. With A/P, the Jedi Council would not allow a union to go ahead. So both relationships are tragic ones.

In Episode II I got the feeling some H/C that he was just some horny guy looking to get in Padme's underwear... not love. I never got the sense he loved her or she loved him back.

However in Lord of the Rings A/A's love for eachother is evident in the few small scenes. The superb acting and chemistry the two have it outstanding in helping to get this message across, her given up her immortal life, her forsaking the Undying Lands for the small chance that Sauron does not win and her and Aragorn can live together for the rest of their days.

Surely if A/P truly loved each other he would give up the Jedi Order and she would give up her politics? Maybe not completly as Aragorn continues his quest with the Fellowship even though it takes him from her.

I'm not sure how to put it across correctly, don't get me wrong I am a Star Wars fan but I feel that A/A actually portrayed love while A/P was just...ummm.... mixed lustful, confused, strange, rushed feelings. Hormones going crazy and stuff.

Sorry if I didn't make sense in some parts

Aragorn would win!!!

The first time I saw this on the big screen, I thought it was magical! A ranger in love with an Elf (and after reading their history...)

Melkor_TheEnemy...you made sense. Although I LOVE the A/P romance, I do believe A/A was done much better. Their scenes were beautiful!!

I think the reason why the A/A romance was better was because it was subtle. It was just a few scenes in an ass-numbingly long movie but they were all so powerful wheras with A/P there were lots of scenes but they were pretty much all over the top, all 'oh i love u with every breath in my body', stuff, I almost felt they were trying too hard to make the audience believe in it. I think the idea of the Star Wars love story does make sense I just think they didn't execute it very well.

You put you're point across very well Melkor, I'm the same, I never know if I'm using the right words to explain what I'm talking about either! I agree with what you said. I just think the Aragorn/Arwen relationship is really beautiful and they had such amazing chemistry, the looks and the touchs, everything about it was just so wonderfully done and really tasteful. The thing with A/P is that yeh, he did come across as a bit of a stalker boy didn't he? I think with him, it's obsession, he's obsessed with her and with her, to be honest I didn't get why she married him at all! I never believed her feelings really, she just seemed uninterested, like not just playing hard to get or hiding feelings but just like i'm not interested and then they get married? I dunno I just didn't FEEL it, it just seemed like they had to get them together in the end.

It did feel a little rushed. And, having watched FOTR & TTT a few more times now, I know what you mean. Very subtle but very effective. I guess when it comes down to it, SW just didn't have enough time.

yeh and GL just can't do romance! I absolutely adore Leia and Han so it's a pity he didn't get whoever wrote them to do Padme and Anakin too. I think the film probably got a bit bogged down by special effects and they didn't work as much on the actual story whereas with LOTR's, Peter Jackson really concentrated on the storytelling and didn't let the special effects overpower the story. Like I love Star Wars but I think in film-making terms, LOTR is the winner. I'm going to see LOTR's in a few days so I'll be back with more to say probably!

I liked Han & Leia's romance too, it was so amusing. However, GL couldn't have done the same thing with Anakin & Padme because we'd already seen it. Their's had to be different.

But I do agree with what you say about PJ...I love SW but LOTR are definitley a FANTASTIC trilogy...hopefully I'll see ROTK soon. Comes out here in like, 2 days. So Leia, if you see it...don't tell me stuff from it k!! 😉 😛

Ok don't worry I won't! I know what that's like cause when the Harry Potter book came out I decided to read it slowly cause I wanted to make it last but that meant loads of people had already finished it so as soon as someone said 'so in harry potter wasn't it really cool when....' i had to run out of the room with my hands over my ears.

Anyway, i agree they couldn't have done it the same,i didn't mean they should, I don't think it would have suited the characters anyway cause Anakin is a straight-forward kinda guy, like if he wants something he'll go and get it with no regards for the consequences but Han was too stubborn to admit he loved Leia. Padme is a lot more reserved that Leia, Leia was really like 'if you piss me of I swear to god I'll kick your ass!' kinda gal, really feisty and stubborn whearas Padme isn't.

"I loved that part in ROTK when..."
"NO!!!!"
*runs out of room with hands over ears* 😆 😛 😉

I loved that about Leia. I mean, Padme is still stubborn and strong and determined, everything that Leia was, but Leia...voiced it more.

Leia was really like 'if you piss me of I swear to god I'll kick your ass!' Too right!! I adore Leia...I really do. At least now we get to see where all that "toughness" came from...even if with Padme, it is more subdued.

Originally posted by DBZFan
Aragorn would win!!!

Yeah with a Light Sabre

Originally posted by Princess_Leia
For me it was A/A. I just felt that it was done so well. It was only 5/10 minutes of each 3 hour film but it explained everything that needed to be said perfectly, showed the feelings and conflicts and stuff and was just done really tastefully. It was very romantic without being overly sentimental and mushy and Liv and Viggo had great chemistry together whereas I felt HC/NP has none whatsoever.And I personally didn't understand why Padme wud marry Anakin at all. I just didn't understand what wud make her fall in love and I didn't believe they were in love for a second, Anakin was obsessed and Padme just seemed like she wasn't interested in the slightest. And I felt it was shoved in ur face so much like it was trying really hard to make u believe it made sense. A/A was just a few scences each film but they were done so well. Sorry if I've mentioned this before but I was just wondering what ppl thought on it so plez post!

Well said ✅

i]Originally posted by Darth Revan [/i]
[B]Well said ✅

Thank you!! 😄

This is an interesting thread since the main discussion is the love relationship. A/A and A/P are both good because both couples have love for each other. Both A/A and A/P go through different challenges but I think the most challengin of the two is A/P. I think this, becuase we all know that Anakin is destine to be evil (but in the end he does redeem himself). So it would be interesting to see what happens in Episode III, with the love relationship in order to decide which love story is the best one.

Originally posted by SilverFighter
This is an interesting thread since the main discussion is the love Both A/A and A/P go through different challenges but I think the most challengin of the two is A/P. I think this, becuase we all know that Anakin is destine to be evil (but in the end he does redeem himself). So it would be interesting to see what happens in Episode III, with the love relationship in order to decide which love story is the best one.

Thanks SilverFighter, I'm glad you like the thread. It's all about the lurve!!!
I have to disagree with you that A/P has the most challenges, I think A/A have to overcome a lot more. I mean obviously A/P don't have the simplest relationship but they don't know at the time that Anakin will turn evil, sure they have to hide their marriage and they split up or whatever happens but compare that to having to give up your immortality and family to be with the one you love and having to go and fight against the Dark Lord and lead the army and regain the throne and all the other things Aragorn has to do. Just because A/A have a happy ending doesn't mean it was less challenging for them or they had less obstacles to overcome. Yes A/P was forbidden but Anakin could leave the Order if he wanted whereas Arwen had to give up her immortality so I think that's a hell of lot more to have to give up. For me personally, A/A will always be THE love story, I like the idea of A/P but i just think they haven't executed it as well as they could have which is a pity cause it is a good story. Though I am really looking forward to ep3 to see how it all goes!!! I think for SW i'll always love Han/Leia the most though, they are just so cool together!!!

Hayden Christensen and Natalie Portman absolutly have no on screen chemistry whatsoever. Episode two had to be the lamest show of a love story that I have ever seen between two actors. George Lucas definitly should of had Obi-Wan's character lead this movie instead of the love story between Padme and Annikan because it was dry and the majority of the Star Wars fans that I know agree that it was down right corny to hear them express their love for each other. Not that their was anything wrong with Hayden, but Natalie absolutly did not make me believe she was in love with Annikan. If you look at Leia and Han Solo the chemistry was there and you believed they were in love at the end of Episode 5, then you also look at Aragon and Arwen I also believed they were in love as well as Neo and Trinity characters as well as Spiderman and MaryJane, but Padme and Annikan? No way did I believe they were in love. I hope Lucas does a better job of the love story in Episode 3

I do understand where you're coming from. And the couples you listed were better in regards to their love portrayal.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by mahoganywoman
[B]Hayden Christensen and Natalie Portman absolutly have no on screen chemistry whatsoever. [QUOTE][i]

I have to agree there, Natalie in particular seemed very uncomfortable.

[QUOTE][i]Episode two had to be the lamest show of a love story that I have ever seen between two actors. George Lucas definitly should of had Obi-Wan's character lead this movie instead of the love story between Padme and Annikan because it was dry and the majority of the Star Wars fans that I know agree that it was down right corny to hear them express their love for each other. [QUOTE][i]

I agree, they should of had Obi Wan lead the movie because he's really the strongest and most interesting character, well for me anyway. I think for me I found it strange that Anakin spend the whole time saying cheesy chat-up lines and acting like a stalker and Padme was just so dis-interested in the whole thing that in made no sense when she decided to marry him. You're just left asking Why? To be honest I'd be quite interested to see Padme get together with Obi Wan. I know that she'd have to be with Anakin to have the twins but I'd like to see her realising Anakin isn't who she thought he was and developing a friendship with Obi and they could have feelings for each other but not act on them out of respect for Anakin but Palpatine makes Anakin believe they're actually having an affair and that's how Obi and he fall out and splits him and Padme. I don't think they'll do this as they have this whole Padme/Anakin as 'star-crossed lovers' thing but yeh, personally I'd quite like to see something like that, oh well, a gal can dream!

But basically, I agree with pretty much everything you said.