what's the best Terminator 1 2 or 3

The M40 is a 7.62mm sniper rifle. There is no M40 in Terminator 2. Additionally the M40 is also the fictious "30mm" grenade for the M41A Pulse Rifle in Aliens. Supposedly in the future war scenes there are a few pulse rifles, but I doubt that's what you meant.

I'm going to assume you were talking about the M79 "blooper" 40mm grenade launcher. If that's the case there was a grenade launcher in T3 that the Terminator used against the T-X in the CRS command center. The grenades, more realistically, did not explode since they did not reach the minimum arming distance.

As for the Terminator character being a wuss, that is unlikely. He is stronger and faster in Terminator 3. He gets more weapons, and he gets better weapons. He uses an M1919A4 .30'06 machine gun, a .45 caliber Heckler & Koch UMP, he uses a Russian RPG-7, a six-shot rotary grenade launcher, a G36K carbine as well as a General Electric M134 minigun that he commandeers from an enemy robot.

And if I recall correctly, T2 is the movie where the Terminator acts all emotional. While his act in T3 is not as good as in previous movies, it isn't because he is a wuss and has weaksauce weapons.

And I have to wonder what violent scenes happened in the second one, because the Terminator kills nobody. The T1000 stabs a few people, but that isn't very interesting. It's a cool effect, but it's definitly not what set Terminator 2 apart from T3.

In the first movie, yeah there is some violence. The Terminator kills more people in the police station than the T1000 and the T-X combined.

And the CG looking fake? What about the fake looking animatronics and stop-motion in the first movie? Apparently that makes the first movie "vintage" and cool, but fake special effects make T3 suck? Okay. How about the fake looking makeup in T2. Yeah you might be fooled the first few times you watch it, but pretty soon it just doesn't feel right anymore.

I'm not saying T3 is awesome, or even close to level of T1 or T2, but the reasons you stated aren't really valid. It seems to me that there are deeper, more important reasons why people didn't connect with T3, and they decide that it has no redeeming characteristics and try write off everything in the movie as bad. I don't think this is true though. T3 did have it's moments, just not as many as the previous films, and had it had a weaker story that we've already played through twice before. That aside, fine movie.

And let's be real, despite some cheesiness, the T850 versus T-X bathroom brawl definitly eclipses the T1000 and T800 handfight in T2 and the Reese wtih a pipe versus the T800 in T1. It was nice to finally see the Terminator unleash some of that inhuman strength with full fury and really tear up an entire room.

T2 IS BETTER THAN 1 AND 3 PUT TOGETHER

(but the others ar still mint)

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Hey people first post on the Terminator forums. My favourite Terminator and quite plainly the best out of the three movies is T2. Terminator 2 is also on my top five favourite movies of all time list.

T2

Kristanna Loken is my girl and best terminator yet-part3.

terminator 2 was the greetest. it has it all. that black dude miles dyson is in speed. it has action, the whole mother/son dynamic. at the end, i wept along with little john connor when arnold jumps into the lava pit.

I agree Terminator 2 IS the greatest. When Sarah Connor broke into the black dudes house ready to fill him full of bullets, smash his kids remote control truck with her combat boots, and defile his wife, and in the end they end up in a heart to heart conversation with Arnold taking a knife to his fore-arm, why did this movie never win best picture? Or perhaps a new category should be offered, best scene ever perhaps??

Terminator 2 is the greatest.

i agree with you on that terminator 2 is the best of the trilogy, but that one particular scene is the lowpoint in that movie. it goes on way too long and that speech by linda hamilton blows real hard.

As Arnold was lowered into a pit of molten steel and gave a thumbs up to curled up in a fetal position john connor, the movie sunk to an all time low. It would qualify as worst scene in the Terminator trilogy. A real john connor would have ripped arnolds head off with his bear hands and punted it into the lava.

Perfoming linda's speech in that scene won me a scholarship to NYU.

terminator two is best, i like 2th movie to. 1 movie not as well as second as the succession. Not see you for a long time ! Are you remember me ? ��Would want wash head now ? How do you do recent time ? Sorry ,i speak English just a little. I wish you happy everyday! John connor is passionate, he cray in movie hwne arnold die. i like see linda hamilton make chinm up in movie part.

Finally a discussion worthy of Father Bruce's participation. I can finally see my studies at seminary school were worth it. It's great to see young people these days join in on important topics such as T1 v T2 v T3.

I for one, enjoyed T2 the most.

T1 has the best story.

I believe the key difference between the T1 and T2 is the way arnold died. One where he's crawling around and gets crushed by a machine press, and the other where he goes out smilin', happy, thumbs up!

That up-beat, optimistic feeling lets T2 soar over T1 in greatness.

i scream at tv why arnold kill himself in lava. i yell "why you not throw ring in lava? you not gonna have to kill self. throw in ring! no to have jump in lava." i weeping all night.

John Connor makes T2 the best ever.

T1, where is he? just a bunch of grown-ups running around.

T2, young and nubile, he must be protected by a powerful, muscular man. A man that obeys John's every wish and command.

T3, John becomes a husk of his younger, innocent self. The cute, rebellious boy and his best friend with a mullet is no longer. I detest the older John Connor.

I think the development with Connor's character is done really well in T3. If John had the same attitude like he did in T2 in T3, then there would be nothing new with the character. I think people just watch the Terminator films thinking they are nothing more than just brainless action. WRONG! Look deeper into the characters and you will see a soul. Connor matured and actually realised that the world could come to an end and he would have to be in charge afterwards. That's a daunting task and a lot to take on/in.

I think Sarah's death really did him in. She was all he had and now she was gone, leaving him to defend for himself. Now I would be scared and worried if I was John. Living a life thinking that everything was now OK, but fearing in the back of his mind "what if another Terminator comes? What if I don't survive this time?" Sarah was John's strength towards the end of T2. Take away Sarah, you take away John's strength. If we were to have the "rebellious" John in T3, he would be annoyed to see the T-800/850 again. But in T3 John is almost glad to see the machine back as though he missed him/ saw him as a father figure.

That's what I prefer and think.

I see your point, you see John Connor, the leader of the human resistance, as nothing more than a wussy mama's boy in T2.

I never did like the way they handled Linda hamilton's dreath in the 3rd installment of the terminator series. it was kind of quickly glossed over. They should have had her death scene in the first part of TIII. It's also nasty how John falls in love with a chick who reminds him of his mom.

N-A-S-T-Y. nasty!

Originally posted by Welshy
I see your point, you see John Connor, the leader of the human resistance, as nothing more than a wussy mama's boy in T2.

No what I mean is that I think after Sarah's death John lost apart of him. Losing a mother isn't an easy thing to come to terms with I would say. Once John grew up (leading up to T3) he realized that becoming the Leader of the Resistance wasn't really a cool thing to become, due to the fact billions of people would have to die. So he lost his mother and then people would have to look up him to save their lives because they lost their mother, dads, brothers, sisters etc etc. I never said Connor was a "wussy mama's boy in T2".

Originally posted by Welshy
It's also nasty how John falls in love with a chick who reminds him of his mom.

I think Kate reminded him of his mother, not because she physically looks like her, but her attitude and strength in that scene, which was similar to Sarah's.

I agree John lost a part of himself when Sarah Connor past away. What he needed was the strong guiding hands of another man. A "Father" figure.

So when John begins to fill this lost void in himself with the My So Called life chick, I vehemtly protested. While watching the movie, I stood up and screamed in protest, "Where is Arnold and why are you not seeking him for help? Not this teenage tramp!"

Basically, John needed more Arnold and a lot less Kate.

When the world is coming to an end, you have to look towards a real leader for support, a real man that knows how to use a gun, but also knows how to be gentle. Not some lady vetenarian.

So once again, T2 wins out on this point.