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Bush on Wire-tapping:


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apparently upholding the constitution and preserving everything america stands for is just "playing politics"

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They've always been doing wire-tapping.

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apparently upholding the constitution and preserving everything america stands for is just "playing politics"
it's just a piece of paper to him stick out tongue


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...to wipe his ass with apparently

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laughing out loud


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The government is always doing things we're not aware of....It's just the way it is.

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*is glad not to live in a crappy government run country*

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The government is always doing things we're not aware of....It's just the way it is.


That's part of the problem, not only are they doing it and letting everyone be aware that they are doing it. But they are trying to convince people that they do this shit for the people's benifit, and if the people don't like it, they don't really seem to give 2 sh*ts.


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Originally posted by KharmaDog
That's part of the problem, not only are they doing it and letting everyone be aware that they are doing it. But they are trying to convince people that they do this shit for the people's benifit, and if the people don't like it, they don't really seem to give 2 sh*ts.
Nothing a person can do.....Governments going to do what they feel is beneficial or even not to their own wills or agendas........Happens on who ever you elect.....Doesn't mean I like it or want to accept it.....just is.

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more patriot act bullshipsmile McCarthyism!

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huh

Our government might be a bit of a pain in the ass sometimes, but not as pathetic as the US. So wtf you smoking?

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huh

Our government might be a bit of a pain in the ass sometimes, but not as pathetic as the US. So wtf you smoking?


LOL where do you live


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Originally posted by KharmaDog
That's part of the problem, not only are they doing it and letting everyone be aware that they are doing it. But they are trying to convince people that they do this shit for the people's benifit, and if the people don't like it, they don't really seem to give 2 sh*ts.


Exactly, in your thread about post 9/11 changes, this is the biggest change. 9/11 has given this pseudo-theocratic administration the unquestioned ability to tell us they're protecting our lives, by sacrificing our freedoms. Sure they were doing illegal things to monitor both domestic and foreign citizens before 9/11. But, since then, they've not only told us they were doing it, but they feel they have to right to shoot us the bird while they're doing it.


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LOL where do you live


Aus. Theres not so much public outcry on politics over here in comparison to the US.

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When I'm on the phone, I know someone is listening. big grin

Yea, sometimes I talk to them. They dont talk back, but they are better friends that way.big grin

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Bush told the public that he has saved American lives with it! smile
He's such a hero....


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Bush told the public that he has saved American lives with it! smile
He's such a hero....


I must admit I am watching this with some interest, at least in a pseudo sociological/psychological sense - the Bush administration has got away with a fair bit by poking the "it's for freedom" or "if we don't do this a TERRORIST will get you" on stage, and I just wonder how large the publics resource of fearful belief is... I mean, is their any chance of Bush brining the public on side by saying "well, if we don't listen to your private conversations and calls without a warrant, then you are in danger"? Some say fear (and hair) won the last election, I just wonder some times how much more it might do, and how much a fearful public is willing to believe...


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