The Battlezone! Round 1 Match 3: Darth Wyyrlok III vs. Darth Thanaton

Welcome to match 3 of the Battlezone, featuring two sith lords prominent in their respective eras.

Darth Wyyrlok III

Darth Wyyrlok III was a male Chagrian Sith lord who served as second in command to Darth Krayt. Wyyrlok worked with Krayt for 7 years, while he watched his Emperor's body deteriorate over time due to the Vong growths inside of him. Wyyrlok searched for a cure, but was unable to find one. Ultimately, with Darth Krayt severely injured on Had Abbadon, Darth Wyyrlok slew his former Emperor, usurping the throne of the one sith.

Little did Wyyrlok know that his grip as the dark lord would not last long. Wyyrlok convinced the One Sith that Krayt was merely in hibernation, but this was obviously not the case. Darth Krayt brought himself back from death, and challenged Darth Wyyrlok to a battle. After a fierce fight, Krayt slew Wyyrlok, ending the life of his most trusted adviser.

Darth Thanaton

Darth Thanaton, born named Teneb Kel, was a human male sith lord who served in Vitiate's Sith Empire. Originally a slave, he was recognized by Lord Calypho as force sensitive, and he trained Kel in the ways of the sith. soon though, Lord Calypho was arrested for heresy and treason, forcing Kel onto the front lines to atone for his master's mistakes. After a critical victory on the planet Bergeren, the Dark Council forced Kel to slay his old master. Kel did so, proving his loyalty to the empire.

After this, the Emperor himself ordered Kel to track down and kill his own apprentice, Exal Kressh, descendant of Ludo Kressh. After a failed attempt, he found her a second time, and used his wits and cunning to defeat and kill her. this pleased the Emperor and the Dark Council, and Kel asked if he could be named a lord of the sith. The dark council dubbed him, "Darth Thanaton."

Much later in the war, Darth Thanaton was having feuds with Darth Zash, who had ascended to the rank of Darth through the murder of Darth Skotia. He soon figured out about Zash's apprentice, who had slain her on Dromund Kaas because of a ritual she was attempting on him. After numerous failed opportunities to kill the apprentice, known as Lord Kallig, Thanaton challenged her to a Kaggath. Ultimately Thanaton lost this Kaggath, and was forced into a confrontation in the Dark Council chambers. Despite his immense power, he was brought low by the might of Lord Kallig. Thanaton was slain for his failure, and Kallig took his place on the Dark Council.

Terrain

The terrain is a muddy swamp on Dagobah, with trees hanging over the landscape.

Who wins this Battle?

Ooh, that's a toughie. Wyyrlok would probably win in a good fight.

I vouch for Darth Thanaton

Reasons:-

SWTOR(E) observes Sith Emperor and Darth Thanaton as being superior to majority of Force-users in the mythos:

"With Darth Zash subdued, the Sith Inquisitor inherits her power base and becomes a Sith Lord. But the Inquisitor nearly looses everything after being caught in a trap devised by Darth Thanaton, a supremely powerful Sith and harsh traditionalist who bristles at the idea of former slave rising to sudden influence."

Darth Thanaton (prime) was so powerful that he literally one-shot his former-self (Teneb Kel) in a vision:-

It shall be kept in mind that Darth Thanaton was extremely tough even as Teneb Kel, proved his resilience and toughness against a powerful Force-user Exal Kressh in a brutal duel during this time: http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=707012

Teneb Kel destroys a metal structure with his FL:

Verdict:-

Wyyrlok III < Teneb Kel <= Exal Kressh
Teneb Kel <<<<< Darth Thanaton

Darth Thanaton >>>>>> Wyyrlok III

Gonna go with Wyrrlok for narrowly defeating Darth Andeddu, who is recognized for more force abilities than Thanathon. This would be a tough fight but Wyrrlok has comparable force abilities, as well as knows how to use a saber. Thanathon wouldn't be able to one shot him with FL, and Thanathon and him would probably be dueling with sorcery.

Wyrrlok' should take this due to his experience as a duelist. Its for a slight majority but a solid victory nonetheless 6/10 I believe.

Even before his prime, Darth Thanaton was among the greatest champions of the Sith Empire:-

Before he became Darth Thanaton, Teneb Kel led the army that retook planet Begeren. At great personal risk, he infiltrated the enemy's fortress to assassinate its leaders and end the conflict."

Teneb Kel disarms many opponents with a gesture:

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Darth Thanaton surrounds himself in a deadly cocoon of power:

Body armor of Darth Thanaton:

"The armor of Darth Thanaton incorporates life-support devices and combat stimulant injectors to give him edge in battle."

Originally posted by carthage
Gonna go with Wyrrlok for narrowly defeating Darth Andeddu, who is recognized for more force abilities than Thanathon.

This is the ranking of characters in SWTOR(E) to give you an idea:-

Supremely powerful = Sith Emperor; Thanaton
Powerful/Mighty = Revan; Emperor's Wrath II
Powerful = Bastilla Shan; Darth Jadus; Lord Vindican; Darth Baras; Naga Sadow; Darth Vengean

Originally posted by carthage
This would be a tough fight but Wyrrlok has comparable force abilities, as well as knows how to use a saber.

How exactly Wyrrlok III has comparable Force abilities? Can Wyyrlok II one-shot powerful Force-users with his powers like Thanaton?

Originally posted by carthage
Thanathon wouldn't be able to one shot him with FL, and Thanathon and him would probably be dueling with sorcery.

B/W Thanaton is a master Sith Sorcerer himself.

"To combat Thanaton's insurmountable strength, the inquisitor learns the ritual of Force-walking and gains power by consuming the energy of Darth Andru, a seething Force spirit locked away on Dromund Kaas. Fueled by the ghost's power, the inquisitor confronts Thanaton - only to be nearly eradicated by the superior Sith's dark sorcery."

Keep in mind that the Inquisitor was already a powerful Force-user by this time, gained great command of Sith Sorcery and even began to augment his power with energies of Sith spirits but he still almost ended up dead in this clash.

Originally posted by carthage
Wyrrlok' should take this due to his experience as a duelist. Its for a slight majority but a solid victory nonetheless 6/10 I believe.

Thanaton is among the most powerful Force-users of the mythos and an extraordinarily capable combatant as well.

Good fight imo.

Good argument @SWL. However I disagree that Thanaton>Revan

Yeah, lolwut? Nox utterly crushed Thanaton and yet you put him on the same level as the freaking Emperor? Are you nuts?

Also Nox did end up dead in that clash with Thanaton. Its just that with the spirits bound to her she can't truly die.

And Thanaton doesn't knows how to use a lightsaber?

He does, but he's not exactly great with it, his foe there outmatched him.

How exactly Wyrrlok III has comparable Force abilities? Can Wyyrlok II one-shot powerful Force-users with his powers like Thanaton?

Wyyrlok can put Thanaton in an illusion and cause him to blast nothing with his attacks, and potentially kill him with just the illusion.

While Thanaton has a lot of omph, his mind isn't particularly strong for one of this level.

Wyyrlok does also have strong energy absorption, bare-handed blocking Andeddu's lightning.

I'm going with Wyyrlok here, I don't see Thanaton handling his illusions well.

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Good argument @SWL. However I disagree that Thanaton>Revan

Originally posted by Nephthys
Yeah, lolwut? Nox utterly crushed Thanaton and yet you put him on the same level as the freaking Emperor? Are you nuts?

Originally posted by Nephthys
Also Nox did end up dead in that clash with Thanaton. Its just that with the spirits bound to her she can't truly die. [/B]

Originally posted by Q99
He does, but he's not exactly great with it, his foe there outmatched him.

Your claim that Thanaton isn't great with a lightsaber is highly subjective.

Originally posted by Q99
Wyyrlok can put Thanaton in an illusion and cause him to blast nothing with his attacks, and potentially kill him with just the illusion.

Originally posted by Q99
While Thanaton has a lot of omph, his mind isn't particularly strong for one of this level.

Originally posted by Q99
Wyyrlok does also have strong energy absorption, bare-handed blocking Andeddu's lightning.

Thanaton have demonstrated stupendous mastery over Sith lightning talent. It is much more likely that Thanaton might just one-shot Wyyrlok III with his lightning.

Originally posted by Q99
I'm going with Wyyrlok here, I don't see Thanaton handling his illusions well.

@ everything SWF typed so far

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Of-course, Emperor is more powerful. However, I ranked characters in accordance with their hype levels in SWTOR(E). Thanaton is evidently among the most powerful Force-users of the mythos.

Thanaton isn't anyway near as powerful as Vitiate. They shouldn't even be mentioned in the same breath.

By hype its:

Vitiate
Malgus + Nox (Malgus is perhaps superior)
2nd Emperor's Wrath
Baras + Thanaton

But anyway, my vote is going to Wyyrlok.
I don't think Thanaton's lightning is anything Wyyrlok can't handle if Nox can literally tank it for numerous seconds. With such being said, I don't think in return Thanaton can handle Wyyrlok's lightsaber prowess, which was capable of holding his own against Krayt, with the combination of Wyyrlok's sheer superiority in sith sorcery and illusions. Not even the rest of the Dark Council thought that high of Thanaton, especially Ravage, I guess because of how he was toyed with by Nox.

I think Thanaton could handle Wyyrok's lightsaber prowess. Thanatons apprentice was one of the greatest lightsaber duelists in the Empire, if not the greatest, and yet the dude never attempted anything against Thanaton. Plus Thanaton possessed Tulak Hords writings on lightsaber forms. And although Thanaton has never shown the ability to deal with illusions like Wyyrlok has, its just as true that Wyyrlok hasn't shown to deal with the ritual Thanaton uses to kill Nox with. Thanaton gets no respect because he's a pompous *******, but he's still easily one of the strongest Dark Council members and does deserve some serious respect. I'd put him at about Dooku level.

Ultimately though I do think Wyyrlok put up a much better fight against Krayt than Thanaton did against Nox. And Krayt and Nox are similar in strength imo. So I do think Thanaton will lose this one.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
@ everything SWF typed so far

My assessment is based on canonical revelations about Thanaton, nothing personal.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Thanaton isn't anyway near as powerful as Vitiate. They shouldn't even be mentioned in the same breath.

By hype its:

Vitiate
Malgus + Nox (Malgus is perhaps superior)
2nd Emperor's Wrath
Baras + Thanaton

Your ranking isn't in accordance with canon hype levels of characters in SWTOR(E) unfortunately.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
But anyway, my vote is going to Wyyrlok.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
I don't think Thanaton's lightning is anything Wyyrlok can't handle if Nox can literally tank it for numerous seconds.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
With such being said, I don't think in return Thanaton can handle Wyyrlok's lightsaber prowess, which was capable of holding his own against Krayt,

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
with the combination of Wyyrlok's sheer superiority in sith sorcery and illusions.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Not even the rest of the Dark Council thought that high of Thanaton, especially Ravage, I guess because of how he was toyed with by Nox.
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So you think that I am making up stuff here?

My assessment is based on canonical revelations about Thanaton, nothing personal.

Actually no, Thanaton is the only individual to be labeled as supremely powerful besides Sith Emperor.

Nothing indicates that Wyyrlok III can tank Thanaton's lightning.

Thanaton is a master swordsman himself.

ample history of exploring ancient Sith secrets/records.

Thanaton have performed actions with his powers that Wyyrlok III haven't demonstrated.

Darth Marr admired him at personal capacity and he is the wisest of the Dark Council members.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Actually no, Thanaton is the only individual to be labeled as supremely powerful besides Sith Emperor.

Your ranking isn't in accordance with canon hype levels of characters in SWTOR(E) unfortunately.

As Ant said, so what? That only means that he's very powerful, as with all these guys. It didn't stop Nox from utterly stomping him. Nox literally backhanded Thanatons lightning away and forced Thanaton to his knees.

And I'd only put Nox on par at best with Malgus considering Malgus forced her and the rest of the Imperial Strike team to their knees with lightning, blasted them away with a Force Wave and gave them a hell of a good fight, at one point choking 3 of them and fighting the last one.

So it needs to go:

Vitiate
Malgus + Nox

Then I put the Emperors 2nd Wrath because they beat Baras and Baras is easily as powerful as Thanaton considering the entire Dark Council was afraid of him and didn't act against him, Thanaton included.

So then its:

2nd Emperor's Wrath
Baras + Thanaton.

Finally, a TOR fan with some sensible logic. 👆

Thanaton wins.