Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Here you have it, the M'kraan crystal wave is very much a multiversal effect:
I never said it wasn't multiversal. But that still doesn't mean Phoenix could stop ANY reality altering. She was able to repair the M'Kraan Crystal, which closed the door between realities, as Japh said. That's not nearly the same or as impressive as fixing reality of her own power, which she didn't do. It's similar to someone telling you to close the door to your house or a burgular will come in and kill you. You closing the door isn't the same as killing the burgular, even though you foiled the burgular by preventing him from coming in. It doesn't say anything about your power to stop the burgular, just about your power to grab a knob and push it shut. It just so happened that Phoenix had the set of keys to lock the Crystal. She gets no credit for doing her job. Sorry!
You seem to be confused son lol. Wanda was using her power outright by warping the 616 reality in the first place. However her amateur tamperings caused a chaos wave to be unleashed. This wave isnt Wandas power its a result of her botch job so you comparing Wanda to the crystal is ridiculous and pointless.
You're missing the point m'boy - Wanda's tampering unleashed a chaos wave that CIRCUMVENTED the M'Kraan Crystal. While Phoenix closed up the door to protected reality, Wanda was the burgular who came through the window and JACKED Phoenix's house. And there isn't a thing Phoenix did about it.
The bigger point here is that Wanda casually unleashed a wave that will destroy creation. Wanda isn't a broken crystal...ain't no stoppin it. Unlike the M'Kraan Crystal, which is simply an object, Wanda doesn't have to create a leak that slowly works its way up the spiral of creation. If she wanted to, she could unleash chaos waves that instantly undo everything....including the White Hot Room. The only reason it hasn't happened is because she has a very specific task in mind.
So I concede. It IS ridiculous and pointless to compare the two - Wanda is so far beyond the Crystal it's ridiculous. 😉
Its like being employed as a cleaner at a nuclear plant and accidentally knocking one of the reactor switches during a clean up.
Sure, if that reactor switch was on your arm and you could flip it at any time and nobody can do anything about it (least of all Phoenix). It makes you one bad ass janitor.
Erase doesnt equal collapse in this circumstance. Roma says this wave unleahed as a result of Wandas tamperings would cause reality to collapse into a single formless blob. The M'kraan effect causes " a severance between "the gravimetric lines of forces that bind matter together" reality is actually erased everything "ceases to exist" not collapsed in on itself. Hence the "blinks" the effect causes.
So there are TWO different ways Phoenix can get owned?!?? Sweet!
According to Roma Wanda only warped reality on Earth, she NEVER warped the entire 616 reality. (If you need a scan just ask lol) Its just that it was such a botch job that it caused a breach.
No, according to Roma it WAS the entire 616 reality. That's why Ronan and other intergalactic beings were taking part in the thing. In the Thunderbolts, Magneto forged a relationship with the Shi'ar and the Kree and actually helped to bring some peace between the two when he joined up with them to fight, I believe, Galactus. So clearly it wasn't confined to Earth. Ronan and Genis made an appearance to confirm this.
The chaos wave is a result of her tamperings it is not Wandas power. Therefore Wanda hasnt displayed anything beyond what a cube being can do. She just did such a terrible job with her reality warping that she nearly f*cked up Marvel lol.
Something she could do at any time she wants if she chose to, which is the point that still stands at the end of your essays. And that would be it. The end of everything...including Phoenix.
Many have tried but none have succeeded.Son 😱
Uh huh.