Originally posted by Air Legend
The the most recent handbook (2007 Marvel handbook right now) is what counts.
Besides, why do you care if they exist in the same creation?
I think he cares because if he proves it and makes the most posters believe it then he will ruin Mr Masters hierarchy, though I'm not sure, but from what I have seen there still isn't the best of friends.
Originally posted by Air Legend
The the most recent handbook (2007 Marvel handbook right now) is what counts.
Besides, why do you care if they exist in the same creation?I am bringing this up because you're a phoenix fanboy in other words you lack credibility.
LT's handbook entry doesnt contradict the one i posted which specifically explains the subject matter of this thread.
The extract i posted stated that the DC and Marvel multiverses are within the same omniverse. Can you find a statement from an official source that mentions the DC multiverse specifically and says its in a separate omniverse? Can you find an official source specifically referring to the point we're debating that gives a contradicting answer to what i've posted? 😕
We both know the answer to that. 😉
Personal attacks are a clear sign that you've hit a deadend and you have nothing left to attempt a counter. That pleases me. 🙂
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
LT's handbook entry doesnt contradict the one i posted which specifically explains the subject matter of this thread.The extract i posted stated that the DC and Marvel multiverses are within the same omniverse. Can you find a statement from an official source that mentions the DC multiverse specifically and says its in a separate omniverse? Can you find an official source specifically referring to the point we're debating that gives a contradicting answer to what i've posted? 😕
We both know the answer to that. 😉
Personal attacks are a clear sign that you've hit a deadend and you have nothing left to attempt a counter. That pleases me. 🙂
Also, your argument using marvel.com is invalid because your source is a wiki. Your presentation using marvelunapp.com is just an argument made by someone who goes by the name of snood, so once again your argument is invalid or just an opinion and, therefore, not a fact.
Lastly, the latest handbook is what counts since they change from year to year, not that it really matters since what you've presented was not convincing, much less absolute proof that DC and Marvel exist within the same creation. I don't have the latest Marvel handbook, since like I said, I don't really care for the matter, and only came in here because of your pompous statement.
I'm sure Mr Master has the latest handbook, and then you guys can begin to feud like you apparently did in old days, but just don't be so quick to claim your opinion as fact, especially since your major opposition is away right now. You can easily deceive the less intelligent people with scans here and there. It would be better if people see the other side of the coin.
And please try to post those over-sized scans so they can become readable to other posters. And you can use a small-thumbnail; the scans don't have to be that big.
The Exiles are the protectors of the Marvel Omniverse,
Not universe,
Not Multiverse,
Not Megaverse
of the freakin OMNIVERSE!!!!!
"Exiles - Protectors of the Omniverse"
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"Exiles ... repairing damaged Realities and Protecting the Omniverse"
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Excerpt from Marvel Handbook clip - 2008 - Exiles bio:
"Insectoid alien explorers discover an observatory outside of space-time,
named ... later the Crystal Palace,
the equipment allowed them to observe every Reality in the Omniverse.
Eventually,
accidentally they caused All Creation (Omniverse) to become [U]displaced"
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So they damaged the entire Omniverse?
But isn't Marvel just a Multiverse? dontgetit
Or did they damage DC, the "real world" and all other companies? 😆
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That's why the Exiles were chosen to "fix realities" across the Omniverse:
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The Crystal Palace is basically another Starlight Citidel,
and like Roma's CN, it can erase any Universe in the Omniverse.
In fact, it may even be able to destroy the entire Omniverse in one shot:
Here is Heather,
trying to over-ride the Crystal Palace's auto-Reality-deletion programming,
it set itself to nullify Reality 1720,
because 1720 is damaged and may cause instability across the Omniverse,
but Heather wants to give the Exiles some time,
in order to find a way to save 1720,
but she keeps getting "Access Denied" instead:
"If I keep getting rejections, I may just start pounding on the core system"
"That would be a mistake"
"What's gonna happen, am I gonna destroy All Creation?" (Omniverse)
"It's possible, yes"
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Notice in the Exile Bio above,
that the Crystal Palace accesses the Reality database (in the Starlight Citadel)
of Merlyn & Roma's Core Continuum.
The Starlight Citadel's data base oversees the entire Marvel Omniverse:
"from this venue,
the Guardian of Reality can view events on EVERY PLANE of the Omniverse"
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As we know, Merlyn was the Marvel "Supreme Omniversal Guardian"
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Merlyn created Otherworld & the Starlight Citidel
"from which he oversaw the Omniverse"
In fact,
Merlyn even made a 50,000 year plan,
to manipulate the entire Omniverse, towards enlightenment & peace"
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Roma (Merlyn's daughter) became the next Omniversal guardian:
"My hand guides the Omniverse Now,
Unlike my Father,
I have no desire to shape the destiny of men"
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The WRITER states:
"Roma ... defender of the Omniverse"
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The WRITER states:
"This is Roma ... For as long as anyone can remember,
she's borne a responsibility for the safety and security of the Omniverse,
Not simply the worlds & civilizations of a single Universe,
But OF THEM ALL"
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On Panel,
Jaspers was threatening to destroy the entire Marvel Omniverse again.
According to Roma (Omniversal guardian)
The Writer;
"Starlight Citadel ... home of Roma, who serves as protector of the Omniverse"
Roma:
"The time has come to face the reality, that All things, perhaps All people are Finite"
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"Everything's in question, and All becomes Finite"
"Perhaps it's time for the Omniverse to change"
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Is Roma hyperboling?
NOT according to the WRITER:
" For now the players are all taking the stage ... the battle is about to begin"
"At stake --- well, the Fate of pretty much EVERYTHING"
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Official Marvel Handbook clip - 2008 - Exiles bio ... confirms this to be a FACT!
"Exiles teamed with Excalibur,
to stop Jaspers & the Fury from destroying the Omniverse"
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Jaspers nearly wiped out all the protectors of the Marvel Omniverse,
in the aftermath, the Exiles, with prep, partially re-organized the Exiles:
"leaving Sabertooth as leader with Morph,
Psylock and new members Mystiq, Sage & Shadowcat,
as sole protectors of the Omniverse"
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On Panel verification:
"Prep work is over people, as of now, we're the Exiles,
time to go to work, an' start savin' the Omniverse"
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I don't really need to prove anything,
as the 2007 and 2008 irrefutable UPDATED evidence speaks for itself.
But here's more comedy for yall.
If Marvel is just a single Multiverse,
why is the Ultraverse located in ANOTHER Multiverse?
http://www.marvel.com/universe/Infinity_Gems
"taken by an energy vampire (Rune) from an alternate-reality.
In that other Multiverse, they were collected by Loki"
(This is referring to the Avengers/Ultraforce arc)
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How can this be?
We know the Ultraverse is One of Marvel's Universes:
(excerpt from the official Marvel handbook 2007)
"Ultraverse - Alternate Earth" (Earth-93060)
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And yet, it's withIN ANOTHER Multiverse withIN Marvel,
but I thought all of Marvel was just a single Multiverse?
durznuts
Then there's this:
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This Reality's Reed Richards has Tech that can literally conquer the Omniverse:
Who desires to rule the Omniverse?
Who plans on conquering the Omniverse?
Who plans to REALLY be the Overlord of Creation?
1720's Susan Richards (who is Madam Hydra in This Universe)
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Now,
how is Earth 1720's Susan Richards (Madam Hydra) going to conquer the Omniverse?
Why, with Reed's TECH of course:
Why rule a World when I can offer you a prize that makes the very Stars irrelevant?"
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"I offer the Omniverse"
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"So my love,
you wish me on my merry way
to conquer this Infinite number of Parallel Dimensions"
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Heather tells the Exiles they must kill Reed,
to prevent Susan from getting Reed's TECH and using it on the Omniverse:
"To preserve the sanctity of Crosstime ... Reed Richards must die"
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"To save the World?" .... "Kill Reed Richards, or this whole Dimension gets wiped"
(The Crystal Palace nearly erased this Reality forever,
in order to prevent Reed's Tech overwhelming the entire Omniverse)
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"According to Heather, he (Reed) lives ... bad guys (Susan) escape this World"
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Reed knows about the plot to kill him,
how its because of his wife potentially escaping Reality 1720
with his TECH, giving her the capability to conquer the Omniverse:
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Reed as always has it all figured out,
he helped Susan get her hands on one of his devices,
Susan as expected uses it thinking she will erase that Dimension and survive:
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So that Universe (1720) is erased from existence:
"The Whole Dimesnion ... it's gone"
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Then Reality 1720 is re-created anew:
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And yes, this was Reed's plan, and he used his TECH to accomplish it.
Thus, saving Reality 1720 from nullification,
while simultaneously getting rid of the bad apples:
And This ...
The Marvel "Omniverse" isn't just a term thrown around without substance,
it's been depicted On Panel (as in illustrated)
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"The Omniverse"
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"An Infinity beyond Infinity"
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"Those lights we've been assuming was a star, just as we see from Earth,
they represent entire Dimensions.
I think that's a representation of the entire Omniverse,
we're looking at All Creation"
Official Marvel bios of 2007 and 2008 confirms Marvel's Omniverse:
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Spiderman Handbook - (Late 2007)
Core Continuum Designation
"Numerical identification given to each Earth in the Omniverse"
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Avenger Most Wanted Files - (Late 2007)
1. Omniverse
2. TOAA
1. "Group of alternate universeS which encompasses ALL Reality"
2. The entity believed to be the Supreme being/Creator of the Omniverse"
swank
Wait, so Marvel's TOAA CREATED the Marvel Omniverse ... ✅
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Btw. On Panel evidence agrees 100% with this bio:
"Reality ... Brian came to realize the size and breadth of Reality,
he learned of the Omniverse and its unending alternatives,
Alternative Realities ...
the Omniverse is the collection of All those possibilities"
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And yet more ...
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"It is within my power to have a given Universe removed
should it's existence THREATEN the OMNIVERSE"
"Objection"
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"Objection over ruled"
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"a Crystal key is turned, a Chain Reaction Commenced"
"A Stricken Universe is placed forever beyond Suffering"
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"A Whole Universe! ...
He just WIPED OUT a whole Universe at the flick of a switch"
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"In ALL the OMNIVERSE,
there is NOT ONE Universe that I cannot DESTROY at the Touch of a Switch"
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Roma or Saturnyne have the same authority,
because they are now stationed on high status
with the perks of being Omniversal guardians:
"This Crystal embodies the LifeForce of your Home Dimension"
"By breaking it, that Entire Portion of the Omniverse CEASES TO EXIST"
Originally posted by Air Legend
I can't believe I forgot this, but the LT exists in all multiverseS simultaneously,
yet GS claims Marvel is just one mulitverse. 😆
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Meh, the fact that the LT was dealing with the power of TWO MegaverseS,
has been fallaciously twisted, although it's typical,
I seen cats here being swayed by the bull shit
"He (LT) sits at the CENTER of ALL things,
feeling the flow of countless Realities,
their FATE irrevocably determined through the judgment
rendered by HIS Three Faces"
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"the Living Tribunal also helped fashion the twin Entities the BROTHERS,
each of whom became the guardian of a different Megaverse,
within the larger Omniverse but encompassing MORE than a single Multiverse"
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On top of that, each Megaverse is a collection of MultiverseS:
"the REALMS with a Multiverse"
"Within the Omniverse,
collections of associated REALMS from different Multiverses,
are referred to as Megaverses"
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So there are Realms that represent a Multiverse,
and a collection of those Realms (MultiverseS) are called MegaverseS.
I guess I'll throw this in one too, nail the coffin sortaspeak. 🙂
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Here we have the Goblin Force merged with Beyonder's essence,
she was trying to find
and usurp Havok's relation to the Nexus of All Realities of the Omniverse:
"The Beyonder Walks amongst us ... He will Destroy Everything"
"The MultiverseS ...
the Past ..the Present ... the Yet to Be ... will ALL be Destroyed"
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Can anyone say OMNIVERSE!!!
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Goblin Force says,
"In the Countless MultiverseS you (Alex) alone are unique"
"So much Power in such a small mind ...
we could have Conquered the MultiverseS together ...
Now I will have to do it alone"
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"MultiverseS?" ... noneyes
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And what are we to make of this:
(Winter 2007)
The WRITER states:
"Not long ago, the Omniverse was swept
by a Temporal Reality Wave of unimaginable power,
that literally tore the Continuum to bits and Re-arranged it"
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That's Wanda's Chaos Wave they're referring to,
it destroyed the Marvel Omniverse before rebuilding the Omniverse afterwards.
I guess this is another lie on Marvel's part. 😂
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In closing I'll say this,
if Marvel doesn't have an Omniverse,
they sure have gone through alot of effort, in fabricating the illusion of having one.
On Panel ... Bios (2007/2008) ... Marvel.com ...
so ... srugdoped
