Vader managed to murder a saber instructor and battlemaster Cin Drallig at the Jedi Temple while choking and killing his padawan, Bene, at the same time.
There you go.
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Vader was an extremely powerful Sith Lord. Although not really a fan of Vader myself, I can't discredit the fact that he was by far the second strongest Sith Lord in history. I can't say that Caedus was number two because he had a very short career as a Sith.
Before Vader was in a body suit, he probably would have been damn near unstoppable. Sure he had clone help purging the Temple, but he killed numerous Jedi without help.
I'll make it more interesting - DS Galen Marek vs Vader pre-body suit.
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You know what's weird? Caedus may have been stronger, but he never fully developed his strength - never really completed his Sith training. But it can be argued that Marek could defeat Caedus.
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Can you drop the "Caedus didn't complete his sith training" card already. It is really old ( and has been dealt with already) and it does not hinder him in battle in fact it was said in Bloodlines that "the only gaps in his knowledge of the Force were those of the Sith." It has already been stated in Invincible that his "command of the Force surpasses even that of his grandfather Darth Vader," that's canon Caedus>Vader and there are a few other sith that could be ranked above Vader such as Bane and Nihilus.
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You really know shit about star wars do you? Now my little advice to your tiny homophobic body and brain is to keep your unwanted, irritating irrational opinions to yourself.
I don't care if you hate vader or not, but your childish and snobbish attitude is beginning to irritate me. Now keep it cool friend and take your finger out of your ass and clean it.
And one question, judging by your post do you happen to be racist or biased against the chinese?
If vader is so pathetic as you say i wonder why the hell is sidious even keeping him in the first place seeing that he himself stated he is going to have a hard time finding a jedi even half as powerful
Funny how vader the weakling could collapse a massive hut in TFU rather easily, dispose a jedi that ripped steel apart and nearly beat the shit out of galen marek before getting the smackdown
Last edited by BoratBorat on Mar 6th, 2009 at 02:50 AM
Caedus was stronger simply because of the fact that he had his whole body, and he wasn't restricted by a master like Sidious. Lumiya wanted Jacen to surpass her, so she didn't limit his training at all. Sidious wanted to keep absolute power, and he had Vader on a very tight leash. Also, Vader was amazingly crippled by his suit and injuries. If he hadn't been reduced to a torso and burnt to a crisp, he would have undoubtedly been one of the top 5 Sith Lords of all time.
Caedus had no sith training. He had the luxury of a piss poor story line written by retarded authors. He "magically" gained sith powers when he chose his sith name. If that's not the dumbest plot in star wars, I don't know what is.
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Nice attempt to irritate me *yawns*
Just shows how desperate you are for trying to get dramatic to get attention.
@To anyone else arguing with this "Happy sith", don't bother, you can't convince an individual with a single digit IQ that he is wrong or change his views due to his bias.
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