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"He Could Even Keep the Ones He Cared About From Dying"
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Pyron_Knight
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"He Could Even Keep the Ones He Cared About From Dying"

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No, not that guy.

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This is him. THe one who uses the dark side to save people from imminent death or possibly even resurrect those who have did briefly.

Has there been any mention of how what Palpatine described in the films is basically what Cade does?

Maybe Plagueis' power has been further explained in supplementary material, I wouldn't know. That's why I'm asking.


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Cade's Shatterpoint Resurrection isn't the same as Plagueis' ability to keep people from dieing. It's never been referred to in any source specifically.



That said, Legacy of the Force can go f*ck itself.


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...what does LOTF have to do with anything?


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He means Legacy.


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Tomato potato, shouldn't have used the same word in such two close series.


EDIT: F*ck Legacy of the Force anyway.


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Eh, I like it. Legacy I mean.

Once I finish it I'll have to make lots of Legacy threads. The last Cade verssus was in 2009 for god's sake.


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no one here will really know anything about Cade tho... I don't think any active members here reads comic books, except maybe McBeefy? I think i've heard him comment on legacy before. I prefer novels to comics myself.

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I know all about Cade and the legacy comics. Stand alone, they would be awesome but in terms of continuity, they suck.


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no one here will really know anything about Cade tho... I don't think any active members here reads comic books, except maybe McBeefy? I think i've heard him comment on legacy before. I prefer novels to comics myself.


Click this...

Anyway I hate Legacy... Ok it has a good story but it shits all over the OT and everything after it. From the Sith ruling the galaxy again, to every aspect of Cade Skywalker, to half a dozen Jedi from he CW still being around, etc...

Yeah, it has problems. Cade is probably the biggest ***** of a character I have ever seen. Cade is simply way too powerful and this abilty is one of the biggest problems.

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You do remember he's the descendant of Luke "Overpowered as all Hell" Skywalker right?

I would have thought anyone who posted here knows Luke is the most broken and wanked character in SW. Cade doesn't even begin to approach his great great great great grandfather or whatever Luke is.


Also, sure, it might look like a copout that the Sith came back in Legacy. But consider this.
In the 20 years or so after Return of the Jedi, how many disasters faced the galaxy? How many superweapons, deus ex machinas, aliens, clones, whatever the hell came out of nowhere to threaten stability? It's quite frankly ridiculous.

The mere fact the galaxy got a 100 years of peace is a gift.

I used to not like Legacy for the same reasons as you. "What bullshit. Sith and Empire AGAIN?"

But the SW Galaxy, in the Expanded Universe, is simply a place of constant strife and warfare. It's Warhammer 40k-lite.


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[B]You do remember he's the descendant of Luke "Overpowered as all Hell" Skywalker right?

Please remind me how being the son of the Chosen one makes you "overpowered as hell"? I would love to know.

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I would have thought anyone who posted here knows Luke is the most broken and wanked character in SW. Cade doesn't even begin to approach his great great great great grandfather or whatever Luke is.

That is your opinion which lacks any kind of explanation.


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Also, sure, it might look like a copout that the Sith came back in Legacy. But consider this.
In the 20 years or so after Return of the Jedi, how many disasters faced the galaxy? How many superweapons, deus ex machinas, aliens, clones, whatever the hell came out of nowhere to threaten stability? It's quite frankly ridiculous.

Doesn't matter. Lucas' Chosen One was supposed to bring balance and destroy the sith. He didn't.


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Please remind me how being the son of the Chosen one makes you "overpowered as hell"? I would love to know.


Because the purpose of the Chosen One is to be overpowered as all hell. Tat seems obvious.


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That is your opinion which lacks any kind of explanation.


No...it's kinda fact. Cade hasn't done anything near a simpressive as the crap Luke pulls out of his ass.


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Doesn't matter. Lucas' Chosen One was supposed to bring balance and destroy the sith. He didn't.


So? That was evident years ago as soon as Lumiya showed up. Hell, it was obvious as soon as Palpatine was revived.

The Prophecy was trashed long before Legacy.


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So? That was evident years ago as soon as Lumiya showed up. Hell, it was obvious as soon as Palpatine was revived.

The Prophecy was trashed long before Legacy.
Yeah, and we've been b*tching since then too. And we're gonna keep on b*tching whenever some unoriginal writers decides to bring the Sith back as an organization of hundreds of Darths.


Just like Legacy.


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Such is your right.


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Such is your right.
Ugh.


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You do remember he's the descendant of Luke "Overpowered as all Hell" Skywalker right?

I would have thought anyone who posted here knows Luke is the most broken and wanked character in SW. Cade doesn't even begin to approach his great great great great grandfather or whatever Luke is.


Sure. Consider that Jacen and Jainia Solo trained for years to reach there current power. Cade however is battling and defeating the mightest of Sith Lords after a couple of months of training. Sure Luke did something similar, but he is the hallmark of Star Wars and arguably had an equal potential to Anakin. Cade has neither of these working in his favor.

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Originally posted by Pyron_Knight Also, sure, it might look like a copout that the Sith came back in Legacy. But consider this.
In the 20 years or so after Return of the Jedi, how many disasters faced the galaxy? How many superweapons, deus ex machinas, aliens, clones, whatever the hell came out of nowhere to threaten stability? It's quite frankly ridiculous.


Yeah, but the heores always win. Yet, Legacy shows us that in the end, their impact on the galaxy is minimal and despite our heros best efforts the Empire/Sith end up winning.

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The mere fact the galaxy got a 100 years of peace is a gift.


They didn't even bring that. And that just ruins my enjoyment of the series. Jedi Master Hoth brings 1000 years of relative peace, Luke brings 100 years of near constant warfare and a few years after his death the galaxy is in as big of a mess as it was when he was born...

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its true. WHATEVER Luke does in FOTJ, WHATEVER he did in LOTF, WHATEVER he did in NJO, they are for NOTHING. They were a waste, and he failed. Sidious did a better job of bringing peace to the galaxy than luke did.

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That's been obvious for a long time now.


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sooo, that's the obvious problem with Legacy. You asked.

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It's the problem with any EU post-movies you mean.


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