Peak Count Dooku Versus Peak Revan

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Peak Count Dooku Versus Peak Revan

VS

Peak Dooku; Revan.

Setting: Geonosis Arena

1. Force

2. Sabers

3. Anything goes.

Who emerges?

Revan. He is far more powerful in the force than Dooku. Dooku is good with a blade, but Revan has killed so many jedi, he would bring a lot of experience. It would not be a stomp for Revan, but Revan would win.

Revan. Dooku is not a pansy by any means, but his total force prowess doesn't match that of Revan.

While I'd personally place Revan on a power spectrum somewhere between Dooku and Yoda, Dooku has consistently demonstrated tremendous power in the Force and prodigious skill as a duelist.

Revan's best feats are his lightning absorption. Other than that though, I don't see anything that eclipses Dooku's skills with a lightsaber, or something that would let him beat Dooku with the Force.

Can you believe that today I saw a dude saying that Revan was the 2nd strongest Force User in history behind Luke? Lol, what a joke.

Originally posted by The_Tempest
While I'd personally place Revan on a power spectrum somewhere between Dooku and Yoda, Dooku has consistently demonstrated tremendous power in the Force and prodigious skill as a duelist.

I have to agree with The Tempest here. Dooku's raw swordsmanship should give him the solid edge here. It's not like Revan is so above him in the force he is going to give him the ragdoll treatment.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Revan's best feats are his lightning absorption. Other than that though, I don't see anything that eclipses Dooku's skills with a lightsaber, or something that would let him beat Dooku with the Force.

Essentially, yes.
My nigh-infallible gut and wisdom tells me Revan was clearly meant to be a prodigy whose abilities surpass even those of the formidable Count and his few showings do hint at a superior ability, but Dooku's feats are extremely impressive.

Originally posted by The_Tempest
Essentially, yes.
My nigh-infallible gut and wisdom tells me Revan was clearly meant to be a prodigy whose abilities surpass even those of the formidable Count and his few showings do hint at a superior ability, but Dooku's feats are extremely impressive.

Yes, Drew obviously wanted him to be incredible with how far he surpassed Meetra and by being able to fight Vitiate, but in the end thats just empty power-scaling. Revan has little in the way of impressive feats.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Yes, Drew obviously wanted him to be incredible with how far he surpassed Meetra and by being able to fight Vitiate, but in the end thats just empty power-scaling. Revan has little in the way of impressive feats.

Not empty: Revan's few 'feats' are impressive and do speak of considerable mastery.

^Indeed. Dooku is also referred to by Yoda as the finest pupil he'd ever seen in the order. An impressive showing considering the prodigies that passed through the halls of the temple during Yoda's time as Grand Master.

Originally posted by The_Tempest
Not empty: Revan's few 'feats' are impressive and do speak of considerable mastery.

Perhaps a decade ago. But with materials like the original Clone Wars, TFU, DE, NJO Luke and KOTOR II it's not that impressive

Originally posted by Mizukage Yoda
^Indeed. Dooku is also referred to by Yoda as the finest pupil he'd ever seen in the order. An impressive showing considering the prodigies that passed through the halls of the temple during Yoda's time as Grand Master.

No doubt that Dooku's a beast of epic proportions and I believe it would be an extremely grueling fight either way.

Originally posted by The_Tempest
No doubt that Dooku's a beast of epic proportions and I believe it would be an extremely grueling fight either way.

I don't see how Revan can win. Dooku is the vastly superior swordsman, and Revan's edge in the force is not enough for him to win on that alone.

Originally posted by Mizukage Yoda
I don't see how Revan can win. Dooku is the vastly superior swordsman, and Revan's edge in the force is not enough for him to win on that alone.

True, true. I was simply thinking of the Force when it comes to a comparison; Revan has virtually nothing to go on by way of dueling prowess.

Revan's force feats put him above Dooku in a force battle

Originally posted by Mizukage Yoda
Perhaps a decade ago. But with materials like the original Clone Wars, TFU, DE, NJO Luke and KOTOR II it's not that impressive

Casually deflecting lightning powerful enough to reduce to ash a woman who, in turn, was powerful enough to curbstomp the Exile and Scourge simultaneously is, in any context, an extremely impressive combat feat.

Originally posted by The_Tempest
Casually deflecting lightning powerful enough to reduce to ash a woman who, in turn, was powerful enough to curbstomp the Exile and Scourge simultaneously is, in any context, an extremely impressive combat feat.

It's impressive but it doesn't even make the top 10 in terms of impressive force feats. Not when we have people destroying armies with a gesture, moving capital ships, and draining entire planets with a whisper.

Originally posted by Mizukage Yoda
It's impressive but it doesn't even make the top 10 in terms of impressive force feats. Not when we have people destroying armies with a gesture, moving capital ships, and draining entire planets with a whisper.

I didn't know you were the sole arbiter of "top 10 force feats". At any rate, it's vastly more impressive than anything Dooku has shown with the force.

Originally posted by Mizukage Yoda
It's impressive but it doesn't even make the top 10 in terms of impressive force feats. Not when we have people destroying armies with a gesture, moving capital ships, and draining entire planets with a whisper.

Given that none of these things occur in personal combat, whereas Revan's did, it's a moot point.

Originally posted by jdoe310
I didn't know you were the sole arbiter of "top 10 force feats". At any rate, it's vastly more impressive than anything Dooku has shown with the force.

Huh you reek of arrogant newcomer.

Originally posted by Mizukage Yoda
Huh you reek of arrogant newcomer.