^ IDK. Itachi's best genjutsus rely on the mengekyo so I don't think he has the upper hand there. No Tsukiyomi, Izanagi, or Izanami. Itachi is faster, but Kakashi has experience with speedsters and his speed difference is not overwhelming. His greatest rival is Gai after all. Without the MS, Itachi loses alot of his advantage over Kakashi. He is basically just a quicker than average fire/water user. Kakashi has mastery over at least 3 elements and is a master of ninjutsu. This fight is really close, but I would give Kakashi the slight edge due to the lack of hax abilities for Itachi.
Nope. Itachi has used several genjutsu without the MS, such as when his clone fought Naruto and co, when he fought Sasuke, and when he fought Bee. His speed advantage can be seen when he managed to dodge all of Bee's attacks, which even Sasuke, who is comparable to Kakashi in speed and Sharingan ability, failed to deal with. And you forget, being a master of ninjutsu to a guy who can copy all you do is hardly an advantage.
Quality trumps quantity. Kakashi has always had these advantages and Itachi still had the clear advantage when they fought before. Also, dun forget that any ninjutsu Kakashi tries can be copied by Itachi's overall superior Sharingan.
Yes and Itachi's elemental jutsus would be overpowered by their weakness. Earth beats water and Kakashi can overpower Itachi's fire with water jutsus. He is more versatile than an MS-less Itachi
Yeah, and Itachi had MS techs, so it didn't matter. He only had a clear advantage because he used Tsukiyomi, which he wouldn't have in this instance. Again, he isn't going to copy everything. Lightning and earth will still be effective.
Hmm didn't consider that...or rather, didn't know that was a strict rule. Especially now that it's been revealed that the Sharingan evolves into a pair of eyes that do let you use all elements.
Elemental advantages do not equal victory. Especially in the case of someone like Itachi. Even if the Sharingan wouldn't allow for him to copy Kakashi's attacks, he'll still see through each and everyone of them.
Itachi may be less versatile(based on showings) but he is faster and smarter. Kakashi's fighting style is easy to see through while Itachi's genjutsu is much stronger than the ones Kakashi dealt with.
Case in point: Itachi defeated Orochimaru without his MS. Kakashi pratically crapped his pants at the prospect of even fighting Orochimaru.
Kakashi can see through his attacks too so what's your point? This would be an even advantage with kakashi having the upper hand in versatile jutsus.
Not sure that he is smarter, and the speed difference isn't that great. How is Kakashi's tactics easy to see through? he uses quite a few distractions and substitutions to gain the upper hand. Itachi simply spams MS techs all over the place. Not much of a strategy, more like overpowering.
Honestly i think this is a bad showing for Oro. He rushed in for some reason, and then got his hand cut off. This from the guy that can regrow limbs at will. To finish him off, he did need MS techs during the Sasuke/Itachi fight.
I just read those chapters relating to this fight. Honestly this was a great example of Kakashi's tactics. He fooled the great Sharingan user into to putting a genjutsu on a clone while he hid in the earth. Then he was able to hold Itachi so he couldn't escape from Naruto's attack. he just as easily could have given him a chidori to the chest.
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Kakashi's sharingan is not as good as Itachi's. Kakashi is not as good as Itachi. The versatility Kakashi has over Itachi won't change that.
Itachi is smarter. And simple: Because Kakashi's techniques are relatively simple. Remember, all the clones and such didn't afford him a huge advantage when he and Itachi fought briefly before the timeskip. Afterwards, Kakashi did use clones to take on a weaker Itachi and even then he needed help.
It was a bad showing for Orochimaru....but that doesn't change the fact that really that genjutsu should be enough to deal with Kakashi. And Itachi needing MS techs to stop Orochimaru during the Sasuke fight...Umm...you do realize he was dying at the time right? He needed to move fast in order to take care of everything.
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