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DBZ movie villains vs. DBZ saga villains

Janemba
Broly
Bojak
Meta Cooler
Super Android 13


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Kid Buu
Dabura
Super Perfect Cell
Final Form Frieza
Android 17



Fight on Namek


Who wins?


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team 2 imo.


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Unless someone on team 2 knows about the Big Gete Star and heavily damages it, Meta Cooler will just continually multiply/regenerate and become stronger after every damaging blow dealt to him. Janemba, the other big gun on the movie side, could also give them plenty trouble.

The OP should've chosen Super Buu for team 2 instead of Kid Buu, and the strongest Frieza was the cybernetic one.


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If it's just the one Metal Cooler, that's not so bad. He'll adapt and improve, but he can be destroyed totally. New ones are made at the BGS itself, which isn't in the fight.


Janemba's the big hitter on team 1. He's got rapid regen and is stronger than SSJ3 Goku (with help from Vegeta and Pikkon!). He may be able to beat Kid Buu.


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Janemba tips the scales in team 1's favor, IMHO.

I can't see anyone on team 2 beating him.

Team 2 also suffers due to Freeza and Android 17.


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Hm, though it does occur to me that even though Janemba is stronger, if Buu started absorbing, that may change.


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I think the sheer fact that Freeza and 17 drag down their team so much sort of makes that mean little.


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Eh, it's DBZ, the fight's always going to be on the one or two strongest.

I'm just thinking, Buu absorbing Broly and Bojack will help him out.


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Kid Buu really only busted out absorption on enemies who could truly challenge him, though.

Like the South Kaioshin, or Dai Kaioshin.


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Well, if he did hit Janemba, that'd be an insta win too ^^


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Janemba would probably stomp Kid Buu, IMHO.


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If it's just the one Metal Cooler, that's not so bad. He'll adapt and improve, but he can be destroyed totally. New ones are made at the BGS itself, which isn't in the fight.


Janemba's the big hitter on team 1. He's got rapid regen and is stronger than SSJ3 Goku (with help from Vegeta and Pikkon!). He may be able to beat Kid Buu.

Meta Cooler can be blown to pieces if he's continually attacked while regenerating, yeah, but those pieces can all reform into a bunch of different Meta Coolers. That was what happened when Goku and Vegeta blew one to bits anyway IIRC, or did the Big Gete Star just happen to be able to spawn more on the battlefield after they went all out on the first one? Either way, PIS with the BGS aside, I can only see Cooler being destroyed competely if team 2 were to go all out on him early enough, but with other guys like Janemba fighting them too, it's quite unlikely they'll get the chance to do that.

If there's an army of Meta Coolers along with Janemba, team 2 is screwed. Broly, Bojack, and Android 13 would hardly even need to fight.

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Janemba would probably stomp Kid Buu, IMHO.

Yeah. If it were Super Buu though (especially Buuhan) it'd might have been a different story for team 2. Seems to be a common misconception that Kid Buu's the most powerful Buu when he's really just the most destructive/evil one.


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Meta Cooler can be blown to pieces if he's continually attacked while regenerating, yeah, but those pieces can all reform into a bunch of different Meta Coolers. That was what happened when Goku and Vegeta blew one to bits anyway IIRC, or did the Big Gete Star just happen to be able to spawn more on the battlefield after they went all out on the first one?


Vegeta and Goku did completely destroy the first one, it was gone.

The BGS saw this and went, "Hm, the reason Metal Cooler lost was there was only one of him. I'll just crank out a bunch," and did so.


MC never made more himself, it was the star.


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Janemba solos. Team fights don't work well in DBZ.

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Team fights don't work well in DBZ.


Yea. The only time they do is when you purposefully pick a group of similar powers, either from the same saga, or less-powerful people from later sagas against chars from earlier sagas.


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and given the rather large differences in power between certain characters on the team, the scales could be tipped pretty fast. guys like 17, Frieza and maybe even Super 13 and Meta Cooler will probably get smacked down pretty quickly. the others will last longer, but it will most likely just come down to Janemba and Kid Buu. in which case, Janemba could win due to his power levels and other abilities. then again Kid Buu is pretty good at pressuring his enemies.

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Vegeta and Goku did completely destroy the first one, it was gone.

The BGS saw this and went, "Hm, the reason Metal Cooler lost was there was only one of him. I'll just crank out a bunch," and did so.


MC never made more himself, it was the star.

Ah, I see.

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and given the rather large differences in power between certain characters on the team, the scales could be tipped pretty fast. guys like 17, Frieza and maybe even Super 13 and Meta Cooler will probably get smacked down pretty quickly. the others will last longer, but it will most likely just come down to Janemba and Kid Buu. in which case, Janemba could win due to his power levels and other abilities. then again Kid Buu is pretty good at pressuring his enemies.

Meta Cooler would be one of the ones to last the longest actually with how it improves itself and adapts after every significant blow dealt to it, not to mention the general durability his body has and having Instant Transmission along with some other tricks. The weakest link on team 1 aside from Android 13 would probably be Bojack or something. Team 2 suffers from its weakest members more though, as Frieza and 17 can't really compete with anyone on the opposing team.

But aside from Kid Buu, if Dabura and Janemba start to engage in a close fight with their swords, Dabura might be able to turn Janemba to stone with his spit if he's quick enough. Otherwise Janemba alone probably solos.


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Is this Fat Janemba?


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Team one there.
Broly,Meta Cooler and Janemba seem to be the brute smashers on their side.
Meta Cooler,up until the Big Gete star gets damaged,will gradually keep regenerating and adapting to any new moves thrown at him.
Broly once when in the LSS form,keeps getting stronger the longer the battle lasts.
Janemba,when in his transformed state,can be a serious pain to the ones on the second team.He gets to avoid any moves thrown at his side by teleporting away from it.
What else?Meta Cooler and Janemba have access to instant transmission too.But seeing to it that Cell and Buu,as well have it.It's pretty useless highlighting that move here.

Looking back at team one.
I would place Super Perfect Cell at same grounds as Bojack.
Frieza and Android 17 don't seem to be standing much of a chance there,though Dabura may turn out be a troublemaker.But still,the only person who I see Dabura beating is super 13,assuming he(Super 13) is weaker than Perfect Cell.
Also,I think Buu and Super Perfect Cell are the only ones worthy on the Saga's side.

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Cell does have the 'almost die then regenerate stronger' thing too.


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