Rey can't be their daughter because they never had one and never discuss one. Not to mention, Rey and Leia met for the first time at the very end of the movie. Not to mention, you'd think Han would mention that at some point before committing suicide by Knight of Ren.
im convinced han didnt know of her. not entirely convinced about leia.
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I am not so sure. We hear a bit of a distorted voice. Sounds like Kylo, but could even be Snoke.
My problem with that theory is the age. Looks like the moment Rey's parents are taken away took place some 10-12 years ago. How old was Kylo at the time?? He must have been a kid himself... That doesn't strike me as very credible.
I think Snoke had something to do with this. And I agree with Ush: Rey's family background could go any way. And personally I hope she is not related.
The argument that the new trilogy is about the Skywalker family is still true when Rey is not a Skywalker. Simply because there is Kylo Ren/Ben Solo...
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Your first thing is an assumption- the screenwriters can change that as much as they like. 'Chosen One' is just a name- the point is that someone can just be born to something, spontaneously. And JJ Abrams has said in interview that he doesn't like the idea of it having to be a bloodline, and with Kylo already doing the family approach, that leaves many options open for Rey's nature. I am afraid you can't close them off by relying on what you post there.
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whatever the case, i'm pretty sure that her parantage will be significant to the story and her character arc. too many references to just drop it and forget it.
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Yeah I don't know why people are talking in absolutes - "She MUST be Luke's Daughter". I admit that's my assumption as well, but if that was 100% the case and we weren't supposed to keep guessing, then they would have just confirmed that in this film.
They aren't going to just change anything they want regardless of how they feel. That's why the story group exists. Not to mention, JJ isn't even writing the story anymore, so his opinion means nothing. Finally, regardless of JJ's opinion, he does whatever LucasFilms lets him do, not the other way around.
Yeah, the story isn't about Kylo. No matter how much anyone wants to pretend that Kylo being Leia's son makes this a Skywalker story, it doesn't. Just like Luke being in Dark Forces didn't make that a Skywalker story. This is trilogy, from what we've seen, is obviously about Rey, and has been since day 1. That in conjecture with what we've seen so far, and making her just Rey Random, would be the most stupid thing I've seen in Star Wars since Jar Jar. The point isn't that they aren't possible; it's that they aren't logical.
fairly certain that your implication that JJ had no say in the story is just completely false.
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Well you're wrong about JJ's opinion in that case because JJ, Arndt and Kasdan between them have already set out the structure of the storyline- the others are not writing in a void. The answers are already there, already written. They've already set who Rey is. That ship has already sailed.
As to your comment about them not changing things like that- first, yes they can and might and second, your idea about Ren being there not making it a Skywalker continuation is, again, just an opinion, and not one I agree with. I think TFA is very clear in making it at least as much about Ren as Rey. He's getting a LOT of plot/character development. Your comparison with Dark Forces doesn't hold up to any amount of examination.
And again, her not being a Skywalker does NOT make her random- that's a false binary you are putting in there. There are a lot of options.
Don't confuse you not liking it with it not being logical.
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She's the daughter of a yet-to-be-revealed disciple of Obi Wan who refused to become a full jedi because he fell in love, but he couldn't have kids. She then became a miracle kid when the mother was very old.
Luke found out about this disciple through Ob1's ghost and thought he'd do a great second to found a new Jedi Order.
or it could be luke's daughter, and that's the big revelation: that he deliberately broke the old jedi code.
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