Juggs getting screwed over in an ASM book?
big surprise, and its by the exact same writer as the infamous cement
incident as well.
and no its not Sentry nor Red Hulk. i read the interview.
its an almost never used Spider-man specific foe from
Sterns early days writing the book.
hopefully Sterns will do some justice for his past misdeeds
and make Juggernaut win in the end. i would like that.
__________________ "We are turning into a nation of whimpering slaves to Fear—fear of war, fear of poverty, fear of random terrorism, fear of getting down-sized or fired because of the plunging economy, fear of getting evicted for bad debts or suddenly getting locked up in a military detention camp on vague charges of being a Terrorist sympathizer."
-Hunter S. Thompson
—"Extreme Behavior in Aspen," February 3, 2003
i just want to point out another case where the creative team did not believe what they were having done to Juggernaut was correct (which happens much more in the Bullpen with characters than you would believe)
Credits: Todd McFarlane (artist/writer), Chris Eliopoulos (letterer), Gregory Wright (colors)
Summary: Spider-Man swings past the World Trade Center, just as Black Tom detonates the top floor of one of the towers. Spider-Man assists X-Force against Black Tom’s partner, Juggernaut, as Cable and Gideon argue over what to do next. After Shatterstar stabs Juggernaut in the eye, he lashes out and plows into one of the towers. The building lands on top of the heroes, yet they emerge ready to fight again.
Creative Differences: In future years, McFarlane will cite Marvel’s demand that he redraw Juggernaut getting stabbed in the eye as the final straw before he quit. In this issue, he says he’s leaving the book for the foreseeable future to spend time with his newborn daughter. There’s certainly no mention of McFarlane helping to form a new comics company.
Panel Count: Fifty-three panels.
I Love the ‘90s: This feels like the tenth comic I’ve reviewed that features the World Trade Center.
Where’s Felix? : There’s a tiny Felix head in the debris during the Juggernaut fight.
Review: This is the Spider-Man chapter of “Sabotage,” the crossover that ran through fellow modern classics X-Force #3 and X-Force #4. Like X-Force #4, this issue is drawn sideways, which is a gimmick that occasionally works during the Juggernaut fight, but often feels pointless. While McFarlane works in a few dynamic shots of Spider-Man, his interpretation of X-Force leaves a lot to be desired. It’s not much of a shock that McFarlane has rarely drawn team books, since he struggles with an awkward, lumpy interpretation of the mutant team on almost every page they appear.
Most of the dialogue consists of typical tough guy fight prattle, but it occasionally reaches the level of inexcusably bad. After Juggernaut refers to him as “Tonto,” Warpath replies, “Why does it not surprise me that your evil also includes racism? Looking to make yourself better at the expense of others.” There is one decent dialogue exchange between the original, tool-ish Cable and Gideon. Gideon questions why anyone is following Cable, pointing out that Cable doesn’t seem to particularly care about the civilian causalities and just wants to continue the fight. I think we were supposed to question the New Mutants’ decision to follow Cable originally, but it’s an idea that got lost as X-Force was swallowed into a sea of stereotypical‘90s awfulness.
So, this is how Todd McFarlane exits Spider-Man, and Marvel Comics. Even when Marvel and Image began doing crossovers in the ‘90s, McFarlane didn’t participate. McFarlane’s Spawn has teamed up with Batman on a few occasions (another crossover was announced a few years ago, although that announcement is a distant memory now), but he seems adamant about staying away from Spider-Man. One of Joe Quesada’s earliest publicity stunts after taking over Marvel was to publicly offer a Spider-Man/Spawn team up to McFarlane, on the condition that he draw it himself (I believe Quesada said he’d do the Marvel chapter with Kevin Smith, making this the holy grail of unbelievably late comics). Apparently, this only served to annoy McFarlane. Reading this series, it seems obvious that whatever affection McFarlane has for Spider-Man is overshadowed by his desire to draw hideous monsters, graphic violence, and other material that doesn’t particularly suit the character. I’m sure McFarlane is grateful for the recognition Spider-Man brought him, but I doubt he’s spent more than a second thinking about the character since leaving this book.
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bottom line. McFarlane knew that this wasnt supposed to happen this way, but was there because the writer thought it would make things " look cool".
__________________ "We are turning into a nation of whimpering slaves to Fear—fear of war, fear of poverty, fear of random terrorism, fear of getting down-sized or fired because of the plunging economy, fear of getting evicted for bad debts or suddenly getting locked up in a military detention camp on vague charges of being a Terrorist sympathizer."
-Hunter S. Thompson
—"Extreme Behavior in Aspen," February 3, 2003
Shatterstars blade was meant to cut Juggy's eye. The change that occured was the way it was shown. Macfarlane originally drew the incident with Shatterstar's blade shown going in through Cain's eye slit with blood coming out, all in the same frame. The editorial staff at Marvel felt this depiction was too graphic, for a family comic. So they made Macfarlane slightly alter it to the version that was printed in the comic. The writers had shatterstar's blades being capable of cutting Cain, becaouse they were forged in a dimension of MAGIC and science, and so able to bypass his invulnerability enchantment.
still not right. he's not Superman, and even Kent doesnt crumble to dust when magic touches him. Juggernaut is re: protected by some of the most powerful magic in the universe. so Shatterstars blade is more powerful than Cains enchantment? and its never showed this effect to anything else. silly is all that is. Cains enchantment is powerful enough that he was able to go through Dr.Strange's autoshield in one punch.
so Shatterstars blade would do that double time? no, thats a "no-prize explanation", and not as creative as unstable molecules in the F4's clothing i think.
__________________ "We are turning into a nation of whimpering slaves to Fear—fear of war, fear of poverty, fear of random terrorism, fear of getting down-sized or fired because of the plunging economy, fear of getting evicted for bad debts or suddenly getting locked up in a military detention camp on vague charges of being a Terrorist sympathizer."
-Hunter S. Thompson
—"Extreme Behavior in Aspen," February 3, 2003
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