Superman honestly doesn't need to since it appears he processes the same energy far more efficiently.
For example OWAW's sundip made him ridiculously over the top tier. His proximity to the Sun when fighting Cythonna made him fight on an almost even basis with a kryptonian skyfather level god.
He actually did absorb a full sun when he willfully absorbed the anti-sun powering mageddon...and smiled afterwards like nothing happened.
Surfer's attempt to absorb a sun powered him up...but unfortunately it has the effect of not only driving SS mad...but making him dumber the more powerful he gets...ala Maul from wildcats.
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By 'all out, not holding back' do we take into account the fact that Superman can travel at super-luminal speeds before extending his fist for the punch?
Do we take into account the possible barrage of follow up punches/blasts?
So Supes flying at top speed and connecting a punch, or Supes simply cocking back his fist and dropping a haymaker? Because if it's Supes charging full bore, shouldn't it also be Surfer dropping his most powerful blast in someone's grill at point blank range?
I'm not sure how that equates. Surfer charging up a blast is like Superman cocking back his fist. To add flying momentum is to give Superman a secondary source of punching force. That would be like having Surfer fly in at top speed and converting his kinetic energy into additional blast energy.
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SHATTERING PLANETS
At best Surfer can shatter (not vaporize) planets. If a non holding back Superman can press more than 50 Earth weights then he too could easily shatter planets with a single blow.
VAPORIZING FODDER
Second, Superman can IMP. If he punches something with 99.9999999% the speed of light then not only will his mass significantly increase but the kinetic energy produced from that type of velocity would vaporize any fodder object that Surfer can vaporize. It's the same science behind of WBH'S output energy after the collision. That energy had vaporization properties due to the impact.
DAMAGING DURABLE BEINGS
If a non holding back Superman can press more than 50 Earth weights then he can damage beings that Surfer cant. Also, going by comics, OWAW Superman can literally damage beings that Surfer's blasts cant.
Bottomline: Since a non holding back Superman's punch can damage very durable beings that Surfer's blasts cant and can also vaporize any object that Surfer's blast can. Thus the punch has the better damage output.
P.S. Superman's hv has better penetration power than Surfer's blasts. It can reach temperatures more than 1000x hotter than the sun. No character in comics was shown to survive or produce that type of heat.
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Jan 4th, 2008 10:06 PM
Well, now I don't feel so bad about S/B 25. 
