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King Thor vs DBZ universe
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pym-ftw
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...Isn't posting the opposite of withdrawing, infact its reinforcing my stance.

I actually watched all three Broly movies to try and find any support for him being a galaxy buster... infact he seems rather pathetic for all the support he gets.


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Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
What? If I said that I could play ten games of football at once, I still do so if I have breaks in between every few plays. Blowing up a galaxy in a day is still galaxy busting. thumb up

1. The narrator states it's under attack. King Kai says it has been attacked. Now if during WWII, I said, "Hiroshima has been attacked by the US, and Nagasaki is going to be next.", would it mean that it hasn't been destroyed? Would it mean that only one building was destroyed in Hiroshima? No, it would mean that Hiroshima was attacked by something they couldn't defend against, was destroyed, and Nagasaki would meet the same fate. That's all that means. King Kai stating that it had been attacked, and at that rate would be the prelude to the north galaxies attack, suggests that Broly had destroyed the galaxy, and soon would destroy the North. You're nitpicking because you have no argument here. Watch it again.

2. He never said that.

3. No, the slaves confirm that Broly didn't destroy their planet because they needed incentive to work for them. He only destroyed their planet afterwards because he didn't give a shit.

Lolunderplaying.

Buuhan multi-reality scream. That is all. thumb up


Dear lord no. You can eventually bring down a wall with a sledgehammer. Does that mean we consider every single hit Wall level in force? No. If a characters greatest attack can blow up a house and he uses this attack a hundred times, does this mean we consider his power 100xSmall Building busting level? No, we do not.

1. Exactly, under attack = present tense aka still happening. Every sub I've seen has him say under attack. Furthermore, PapaBroly even says Brolly is still attacking the galaxy. So thats three voices saying its being attack up to the reveal.

2. "He is wrecking havoc all over an area of the Southern Galaxy with his fearsome power. At his pace, even the New Planet Vegeta that we worked to establish will fall to the Legendary Super Saiyan.."

Both stating present tense in attacking, and that he'd be making his was to this planet which tells us its gradual.

3. Both the sub and dub has the lil brat tell the gang they were brought here to work when Broly destroyed their planet. And how do you take a whole group of slaves to a new planet? A space ship. Now how did Paragas find out to get the ship there? Either Broly somehow told him or he was there at the time. Seeing as Broly does not have a communication devices and would be too berserk to use it anyhow.. the latter. Paragas, and his spaceship, was on the planet with Broly prior to blowing it up. Seeing as this tells us that Broly was attacking certain planets under order from his pops, as he himself reveals later in the film, Paragas had to have been at these planetary destructions.



Ohhh you mean the anime only scene in which Buu's scream threatens to tear a hole in the fabric in reality that would in tern affect the universe thus admitting that its only destruction is 'fabric of reality' level as its what causes further destruction, not Buu's actual force? Please, you have a chain reaction based on strong vibrations. It A) doesn't have universal DC and B) is only applicable to said vibrations of the scream, not attacks. Anime even states that the only damage would come from an altverse crashing in on ours, from Dende and Vegito. So yes, not DC, a ripping tech that creates a chain reaction.


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Goku wins. By the way, we didn't get a time on how long it took Broly to destroy the Galaxy which means we would have to go by what we saw and what we saw is him instantly destroying it, lowballers.


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What are you drunk?

Three people state the assault is still happening.

Its stated the attack is only happening in a section of the galaxy.

Its proven that the attack was a planet by planet event.



Carv, all you have is a flashy representation that gets contradicted at every single point. Move on.


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What are you drunk?

Three people state the assault is still happening.

Its stated the attack is only happening in a section of the galaxy.

Its proven that the attack was a planet by planet event.



Carv, all you have is a flashy representation that gets contradicted at every single point. Move on.


When was this stated?


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In the original, not dub. The narrator and Kai both say Broly is attacking the South Galaxy, presently. Paragas then says this to Vegeta; "He is wrecking havoc all over an area of the Southern Galaxy with his fearsome power. At his pace, even the New Planet Vegeta that we worked to establish will fall to the Legendary Super Saiyan..". Admitting to present tense and that its only a section.

Planet by planet proven when the slaves tell us they were taken by Paragas before Broly busted the planet, showing that Broly was escorted to Paragas' desired locations.


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In the original, not dub. The narrator and Kai both say Broly is attacking the South Galaxy, presently. Paragas then says this to Vegeta; "He is wrecking havoc all over an area of the Southern Galaxy with his fearsome power. At his pace, even the New Planet Vegeta that we worked to establish will fall to the Legendary Super Saiyan..". Admitting to present tense and that its only a section.

Planet by planet proven when the slaves tell us they were taken by Paragas before Broly busted the planet, showing that Broly was escorted to Paragas' desired locations.


So everything we seen disappear on panel wasn't destroyed? You're not making sense.


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On panel? Its a movie...

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No, it was not. That scene is dnothing more than a flashy representation.

We know for a fact that Broly was escorted around with his father, going to planets to both pick up slaves and warriors, in search for a suitable host planet. None of that could be possible if the galaxy was just wiped out.

With know evidence and 4 different statements, yes, it's nothing more than a flashy representation.


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No, it was not. That scene is dnothing more than a flashy representation.

We know for a fact that Broly was escorted around with his father, going to planets to both pick up slaves and warriors, in search for a suitable host planet. None of that could be possible if the galaxy was just wiped out.

With know evidence and 4 different statements, yes, it's nothing more than a flashy representation.


Do you know how long it would take for him to devastate a planet by flying in a closed ship? Just stop it. And the times we seen them in space, they were unaided by a ship. Again, just stop.


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If only ships had doors or pressurised releases.

Lol are you honestly trying to deny what the movie flat out tells us? Let me run this by you again;
1. The slaves tell us Paragas came to their world, abducted them, and then had Broly destroy the planet.
2. Paragas states his collected warriors came from across the galaxy, meaning the above has been happening more than once.
3. He can't go LSSG without Goku there or Paragas.


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If only ships had doors or pressurised releases.

Lol are you honestly trying to deny what the movie flat out tells us? Let me run this by you again;
1. The slaves tell us Paragas came to their world, abducted them, and then had Broly destroy the planet.
2. Paragas states his collected warriors came from across the galaxy, meaning the above has been happening more than once.
3. He can't go LSSG without Goku there or Paragas.


1. No he didn't. Broly destroyed their planet while fighting Goku and co. to lower the slaves's morale.

2. He said his warriors came from all over the galaxy. What is that supposed to mean, other than someone collected them, likely Paragus?

3. So why did Broly go Legendary when he was a baby? Or fighting Gohan? You're making baseless assumptions again.

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1. Fair enough. We still have him getting warriors across the galaxy to back this travel up.

2. Yep.

3. Anyone with sense knows that by saying Goku and Paragas, I was referring to the mind controlling/subduing device. With it on he's a docile dope.


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1. No he didn't. Broly destroyed their planet while fighting Goku and co. to lower the slaves's morale.

2. He said his warriors came from all over the galaxy. What is that supposed to mean, other than someone collected them, likely Paragus?

3. So why did Broly go Legendary when he was a baby? Or fighting Gohan? You're making baseless assumptions again.

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Also, lol again at Broly flying by in ships destroying planets. Hilarious. Not directed at you SSJ.


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Also, lol again at Broly flying by in ships destroying planets. Hilarious. Not directed at you SSJ.


I know, lol.

Yeah though, who's to say he even used a ship? Maybe he just flew around in a ki bubble, like he did as a baby. I mean, there WAS only one Saiyan pod.


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I'm still unclear on why you think a ships doors are so slow...


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I'm still unclear on why you think a ships doors are so slow...


Rewatch the episodes when the Saiyans arrived. It took them a while to open, and that's not even taking in the time it took to land.


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And? We have absolutely no context on the pre-title card scene...

For all we know its multiple years possibly a decade or more.


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And on the fact that Broly won't really act without command? Knowing that Paragas wouldn't allow him to rum rampant when out of his view to control?


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And? We have absolutely no context on the pre-title card scene...

For all we know its multiple years possibly a decade or more.


So you're saying it took King Kai decades to contact Goku?

Do you even know what series is being discussed here?


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