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King Thor vs DBZ universe
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Considering their best asset against Thor is energy projection, and Thor absorbs it, guess what happens


Yeah, it done well against the androids -.- And thor uses it 24/7 oh wait he doesn't, 1 hit ponies champ

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Galaxies don't rotate anywhere near that fast as it did on the screen, ergo it was sped up considerably. Plus he only went around destroying stars/planets one at a time anyways

And nice non sequiter you have there with the Gogeta thing


Sorry but none of them are a million years old, Its inconsistent and no broly done much more then destroying planets and stars, Quotes in the movie prove otherwise.


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"Bu- bu- bu teh plot guize!"

No, no plot to it, there were planets still there, and ki signals since Goku could IT there, ergo galaxy was not destroyed and Broly is not a galaxy buster and he never will be, case closed


Let me give you a clap on how stupid this proof is. You cannot prove something wrong, use proof not what you want to see buddy. The plot of the movie was for the planets to be there so Vegeta can waste his time until the comet arrives. understand to plot of the movie buddy. Do not ignore it because you have nothing to count it with.

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Other than the fact it, you know, wasn't


No sorry, after it was gone it was said to be under attack, and king kai commented on it. So no your so called fact is not a fact to begin with
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Reminds me of the time King Kai said Frieza was a universal threat or Supreme Kai said Buu could destroy universes


Difference it we do not know how long kid Buu can live for as he lived for millions of years nor we do not know about Frieza and how long he lives for.

broly on the other hand was said to be a universal destroyer twice, in RSSJ form and LSSJ form by paragus and piccolo.

Do some common sense thinking

how long saiyans live for + the age of Broly (30 years) + how big the universe is. Sorry to say but 50 to 60 years to destroy a universe is going to put him on a Galaxy level scale.

But then again non of them destroyed a galaxy in front of someone and have them being said to be a galaxy level destructor at the pace there going

Sorry sir but no, galactus is not going to get shit stomped by a planet level attack, hence why it was said to be the force of a billion supernovas

Keep up champ

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Wow one long BS post that literally came down to "It could of" & "I don't like context so I'll ignore it."


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Wow one long BS post that literally came down to "It could of" & "I don't like context so I'll ignore it."


then prove it wrong champ, or are you going to sit there and make excuses pretending you can debunk it smile

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It's been proven wrong, you just dont like it.


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It's been proven wrong, you just dont like it.


no sorry sir, its never been proven wrong.

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Yeah, it done well against the androids -.- And thor uses it 24/7 oh wait he doesn't, 1 hit ponies champ


Thor's abilities are far more potent

Also, I guess DBZ characters don't planet bust in every single fight so they can't

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Sorry but none of them are a million years old, Its inconsistent and no broly done much more then destroying planets and stars, Quotes in the movie prove otherwise.


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The plot of the movie was for the planets to be there so Vegeta can waste his time until the comet arrives. understand to plot of the movie buddy. Do not ignore it because you have nothing to count it with.


>I know contexts exists but I'll just ignore it because it devalues my opinion

It's like you're being deliberately ignorant, or you're just that damn oblivious

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Let me give you a clap on how stupid this proof is. You cannot prove something wrong, use proof not what you want to see buddy.


You admit there's planets there but try to claim Broly is a skyfather tier being by ignoring things you know exist. You are so dishonest

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No sorry, after it was gone it was said to be under attack, and king kai commented on it. So no your so called fact is not a fact to begin with


Again, the fact that several planets were there still there contradicts your claim outright. Broly is not galaxy busting, never has been and he never will be. Get over it

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Difference it we do not know how long kid Buu can live for as he lived for millions of years nor we do not know about Frieza and how long he lives for.


Useless red herring

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broly on the other hand was said to be a universal destroyer twice, in RSSJ form and LSSJ form by paragus and piccolo.


Feats/powerscaling>statements

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Do some common sense thinking


When you learn sentence structure maybe I will

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how long saiyans live for + the age of Broly (30 years) + how big the universe is. Sorry to say but 50 to 60 years to destroy a universe is going to put him on a Galaxy level scale.


Broly destroyed a galaxy (by destroying stars one after the other, not several at once, mind you), now you're trying to bring up destroying universes, make up your damn mind

But then again non of them destroyed a galaxy in front of someone and have them being said to be a galaxy level destructor at the pace there going

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Sorry sir but no, galactus is not going to get shit stomped by a planet level attack, hence why it was said to be the force of a billion supernovas


I take it you ignored the whole "most of us ignore punching out weakened Galactus" thing as an outlier. That and I think he had help from Odin, unless I'm thinking of something else

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Keep up champ


Says the guy who uses DBZtard/comic downplayer tactics that failed to work as far back as 2008, because if you push hard enough, you never know, it'll work!

Also, don't you love substanceless TL;DR posts such as yours?

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Thor's abilities are far more potent

Also, I guess DBZ characters don't planet bust in every single fight so they can't


That because they control the Ki radius of the blast, and Thor absorbing energy is one hit pony technique

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>I know contexts exists but I'll just ignore it because it devalues my opinion

It's like you're being deliberately ignorant, or you're just that damn oblivious


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"Bu- bu- bu teh plot guize!"

No, no plot to it, there were planets still there, and ki signals since Goku could IT there, ergo galaxy was not destroyed and Broly is not a galaxy buster and he never will be, case closed


nice logic sir, though the reason for that has been explain, deal with it


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You admit there's planets there but try to claim Broly is a skyfather tier being by ignoring things you know exist. You are so dishonest


I truly do not care about what level he would be placed in comics, The planets where there as a set up for Vegeta to waste his time. And fun fact comparing fews thousands, Hundreds of thousands or stars/planets to hundreds of billions of Stars and planets is like comparing a ant to a house, Its not noticeable. So sorry but next time you eat a sandwich and you drop 1 or 2 tiny crumbs, it means you didn't eat that sandwich


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Useless red herring


Eh no, Come up with better proof bud

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Feats/powerscaling>statements


Funny, I bet if i power scale Frieza saga and DBZ, I would never hear the end of it, but it does not matter. 2 times bud, Looks like the guy is not playing around on what he can do


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Broly destroyed a galaxy (by destroying stars one after the other, not several at once, mind you), now you're trying to bring up destroying universes, make up your damn mind

But then again non of them destroyed a galaxy in front of someone and have them being said to be a galaxy level destructor at the pace there going


Sorry sir, I do not see the same part as you. So do not express your views like they are correct unless you are proving so.

Fun fact, King kai said was when he said in the jap sub that "At this rate, even my northern galaxy will be destroyed"

Slipping on thin ice bud

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I take it you ignored the whole "most of us ignore punching out weakened Galactus" thing as an outlier. That and I think he had help from Odin, unless I'm thinking of something else


Oh so king thor who punched Galactus and said to be at a billion supernovas is now a outlier -.-

Please your full of shit lol

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Says the guy who uses DBZtard/comic downplayer tactics that failed to work as far back as 2008, because if you push hard enough, you never know, it'll work!

Also, don't you love substanceless TL;DR posts such as yours?


Sorry what the series shows and says > what you want to see and how you place DBZ. and i do not underrate comics, King thor should be Galaxy level

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That because they control the Ki radius of the blast, and Thor absorbing energy is one hit pony technique


Special pleading fallacy. You either apply the same logic across fiction or you get out

"He didn't use it every time he's not allowed to use it" is not an argument, it's nothing but a retarded downplayer's tactic and that's all it's ever going to be

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nice logic sir, though the reason for that has been explain, deal with it


Translation: "I'm not listening lalalalala"

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I truly do not care about what level he would be placed in comics, The planets where there as a set up for Vegeta to waste his time. And fun fact comparing fews thousands, Hundreds of thousands or stars/planets to hundreds of billions of Stars and planets is like comparing a ant to a house, Its not noticeable. So sorry but next time you eat a sandwich and you drop 1 or 2 tiny crumbs, it means you didn't eat that sandwich


"Set up" and "teh plot" are just literary devices, which are not taken above suspension of disbelief method

Suspension of disbelief method: Like it or not, there were still lots of planets there and energy since he could IT there, he didn't destroy a galaxy and it was an overtime thing, he's not a skyfather tier being. Case closed

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Funny, I bet if i power scale Frieza saga and DBZ, I would never hear the end of it, but it does not matter. 2 times bud, Looks like the guy is not playing around on what he can do


Well if Frieza Saga chars are weaker, then powerscaling would actually work

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Sorry sir, I do not see the same part as you. So do not express your views like they are correct unless you are proving so.

Fun fact, King kai said was when he said in the jap sub that "At this rate, even my northern galaxy will be destroyed"

Slipping on thin ice bud


What, the fact that stars were disappearing bit by bit rather then all at once not obvious?

"At this rate", meaning it'd happen in the future, meaning it was an overtime thing and the South Galaxy was still in the process of being destroyed you god damn dipshit

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Oh so king thor who punched Galactus and said to be at a billion supernovas is now a outlier -.-

Please your full of shit lol


Well if you want to play that game and take hyperbole literally then Sentry and Hulk are multistellar because their punches are stated to have the force of millions of supernovas, sure

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Sorry what the series shows and says > my personal interpretation and fanwank of DBZ.


Fixed it for you


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The official plot is that a specific section of the Galaxy is under attack. Nothing more.

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As in all canon information states that Broly was only attacking a section of that Galaxy, not the whole thing. And attacking, not destroying/wiping/busting. Also note the present tense on attacking. Aka not a single blast feat.

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Show any time table for Broly.

I'll take this serious after that.


Watch the movie yourself.

King Kai said that Broly started attacking, then he called Goku while he was at a meeting for Gohan's school. In that time, Broly destroyed the south galaxy except for two planets, a star, and a comet. That's still galaxy busting.

You expect me to ass-pull a statement from King Kai, saying it took him an exact amount of time to contact Goku? It's a movie, it doesn't work like that.


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Special pleading fallacy. You either apply the same logic across fiction or you get out

"He didn't use it every time he's not allowed to use it" is not an argument, it's nothing but a retarded downplayer's tactic and that's all it's ever going to be


Actually i have applied it to other fiction, Like Thor punching galactus or One piece etc

Oh so according to you, Thor can beat any energy user since he can absorb, really man wake up will you

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Translation: "I'm not listening lalalalala"


Then do not debate or bring it up if you have nothing in return

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"Set up" and "teh plot" are just literary devices, which are not taken above suspension of disbelief method

Suspension of disbelief method: Like it or not, there were still lots of planets there and energy since he could IT there, he didn't destroy a galaxy and it was an overtime thing, he's not a skyfather tier being. Case closed


And i told you to prove everything you just said, And no shit there was energy, he didn't destroy the galaxy physical. And like i said little planets and stars left over is nothing to hundreds of billion of stars, planets, solar systems. When you build a house 50 meters long, if you see a 1 millimetre chip on a brick, it does not classify as a house -.-

I told you to prove it, Who cares how he ranks in marvel. He galaxy level, if sky farther is galaxy level then he is sky father or whatever. Retarded comic logic really

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Well if Frieza Saga chars are weaker, then powerscaling would actually work


Oh so fan-made power scaling > Statements now -.- really you have nothing to offer do you

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Well if you want to play that game and take hyperbole literally then Sentry and Hulk are multistellar because their punches are stated to have the force of millions of supernovas, sure


Problem is King thor is known for being galaxy level, thus punching at a force of a small galaxy is normal for him, Sentry and hulk always act on planetary level feats. And in comics street level guys can even do well against star level or universal guys. Its inconsistent, but this isn't since the guy who punched is already on a galaxy level tier.

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Fixed it for you


Sorry sir, but what i go by is what the series show and statements, not power scaling assumptions and "oh its a hyperbole, Or its a plot blah blah blah" Really your full of shit

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As in all canon information states that Broly was only attacking a section of that Galaxy, not the whole thing. And attacking, not destroying/wiping/busting. Also note the present tense on attacking. Aka not a single blast feat.


The Galaxy was said to be under attack AFTER the galaxy was gone, not before. And no section was gone since the entire galaxy disappeared.

Kid Buu feat on destroying a galaxy shows what a few years destroying it looks like, Broly galaxy scene didn't even come close to the style of it

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Last one to realise the image at the begining was wasn't a real representation? Knowing that there are stars still present where the flashy cinematic shows nothing at all, and that its states that only a /section/ was under (present tense) attack.


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Last one to realise the image at the begining was wasn't a real representation? Knowing that there are stars still present where the flashy cinematic shows nothing at all, and that its states that only a /section/ was under (present tense) attack.


Actually no, your not going to see a few stars from a galaxy, some stars can be seen from 10 000 light years away

seriously the amount of shit i am hearing smh

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Lol nice, test obvious, dodge despite it being littered with stars, which also throws any large scale busting out the window.

Are you denying that everyone states that the galaxy is currently being attacked? Denying that it was stated that only a section of the galaxy was under attack?

Thing is, you have to blindly deny this as accepting either one would prove that that little display was nothing more than imagery, which is also the only support to your galaxy level.


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Lol nice, test obvious, dodge despite it being littered with stars, which also throws any large scale busting out the window.

Are you denying that everyone states that the galaxy is currently being attacked? Denying that it was stated that only a section of the galaxy was under attack?

Thing is, you have to blindly deny this as accepting either one would prove that that little display was nothing more than imagery, which is also the only support to your galaxy level.


You're completely twisting that statement.

King Kai said in Japanese, "He's attacked the south galaxy! At this rate, he'll come here next!", which still implies that he could destroy the galaxy in a very short amount of time, albeit not all at once. In the english version, he said, "He's destroyed the south galaxy! At this rate, the north will be next!", which puts him at galaxy busting.

Either way, you're still left with a galaxy busting Broly, albeit a slightly weaker one in the japanese dub. If you think the difference between a day or two in busting a galaxy puts any kind of hole in this argument, then you're just an idiot.

Not to mention that this entire feat was brought up solely as support to later tier multiverse busting.


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That doesn't imply anything of the sort. Loldub.

1. The narrator states it's under attack, Kai says it's being attacked. Both present tense. Meaning not some one shot.

2. PapaBroly states that only a section, so only a part, is under attack, again present tense.

3. It's proven that he was also escorting Broly around this section in his spaceship, as proven by them picking up slaves then having Broly destroy their planet. Slaves confirm this.

Lolmultiversebusting.


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That doesn't imply anything of the sort. Loldub.

1. The narrator states it's under attack, Kai says it's being attacked. Both present tense. Meaning not some one shot.

2. PapaBroly states that only a section, so only a part, is under attack, again present tense.

3. It's proven that he was also escorting Broly around this section in his spaceship, as proven by them picking up slaves then having Broly destroy their planet. Slaves confirm this.

Lolmultiversebusting.


What? If I said that I could play ten games of football at once, I still do so if I have breaks in between every few plays. Blowing up a galaxy in a day is still galaxy busting. thumb up

1. The narrator states it's under attack. King Kai says it has been attacked. Now if during WWII, I said, "Hiroshima has been attacked by the US, and Nagasaki is going to be next.", would it mean that it hasn't been destroyed? Would it mean that only one building was destroyed in Hiroshima? No, it would mean that Hiroshima was attacked by something they couldn't defend against, was destroyed, and Nagasaki would meet the same fate. That's all that means. King Kai stating that it had been attacked, and at that rate would be the prelude to the north galaxies attack, suggests that Broly had destroyed the galaxy, and soon would destroy the North. You're nitpicking because you have no argument here. Watch it again.

2. He never said that.

3. No, the slaves confirm that Broly didn't destroy their planet because they needed incentive to work for them. He only destroyed their planet afterwards because he didn't give a shit.

Lolunderplaying.

Buuhan multi-reality scream. That is all. thumb up


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Lol the dumbassery.


Lol the shameful withdrawal.


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