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eaebiakuya
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One visual i always liked is the old Fan Art from Dragon Ball AF (red skin, white hair).

But i dont think we will see anything like that in next movie. Apart from SSJ3, Akira always liked the concept of "less is more", as we can see with Mistic Gohan, Freeza Ultimate Form, SSJ God and even Perfect Cell.

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I thought that was Goten at first.

Looks like he slimmed down a lot.
Anxious to see if he transforms to a SSJ3, a SSJG, or just be at the same Ultimate level.
Sadly, I imagine that Gohan has taken the backseat next to the likes of Goku and Vegeta. As was the case in BoG, he'll probably end up being grouped with the B-list Z-fighters in this film as well. Akira seems to have purposefully overlooked the fact that he originally wrote Buu-era Gohan with>>>>>SSJ3-level power.

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There is a rumor/myth in internet that Akira wanted to Gohan defeat Buu, but Shonen Jump editors dont liked the idea, they wanted Goku to be the main hero.

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That's true, I've seen the interview myself--I'll try to find the link for you guys. I suppose it makes sense to a point, considering Goku is Dragon Ball(much like Superman is DC comics.) I just wish Gohan would have stayed relevant after he became 'Mystic'. /shrug


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Isn't that the same or similar as to why Gohan beat Cell?

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I'll have to stop watching DBZ if Frieza is able to do anything short of get raped by any SSJ3 character+
I wouldn't hold on to those words if I were you. Just that it seems like the only thing that will happen if Frieza will, in any shape or form, pose a threat to SS3 strength characters which now includes Vegeta.


With regular training I can see 100% Frieza being Buu saga SS2 level at this point. This theory has him still being a good deal stronger than Piccolo, who iirc would be as strong as a SS1(?). So SS2 level is possible. Though he would need the SS3 boost to even touch the top 5 at this level, even if a new form grants this its nothing to God modes.

So yeah, a new special upgrade like god mode me thinks.


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Well, by the looks of it, I think this new form of Frieza will be able to hang with SSG-level base Goku (assuming Goku's power level has maintained or improved post-BoG).


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The look of SSJG was terrible. I can only hope Akira improves upon it in this film.

I did think the SSJ4-esque concept/fanart of SSJG was badass, though...

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See, I actually thought this WAS what we were gonna get. Once again, what we did get was disappointing in comparison to both this look AND the SSj4 look.


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I was genuinely surprised that the SSJG look was so bland. It was a less intense Kaio ken? really?


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Even if I want to see Gohan getting the spotlight sometime in the future, Frieza is Vegeta's/Goku's enemy. It would make little sense to have the kid taking in such a foe.

Now, when they do revival of C, then Gohan should have the main role stick out tongue


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The Super Saiyan God form wasn't so much a transformation as an awakening. Akira Toriyama even said that Goku absorbed it into his being and that's why he could keep up with Bills as a Super Saiyan even after he stopped being a "God."

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What was your concept for [Super Saiyan] God’s appearance?

I was resistant to [the idea of] Goku getting more and more macho, or having a flashy transformation, so I wanted to make a course-correction. Except, visually-speaking, a Goku who doesn’t have any change at all would be difficult to understand, so I changed just his hair color and his eyes.

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Will Goku be able to transform into [Super Saiyan] God in the future?

I think you’ll understand if you watch [the movie], but Goku has already absorbed [Super Saiyan] God’s power and made it his own, so there is no need for him to transform into [Super Saiyan] God. Goku basically only thinks of fighting as a sporting match, so borrowing the power of five people isn’t fair, and he resisted doing that; however, it seems his curiosity towards the realm that lay even further beyond him won out.

Source.

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Yeah, but he was still given a different look upon attaining Godly power--it would've been nice to see something a little more original, is all.

Regardless, I'm fairly confident that we'll see the equivalent of 'SSJG2' in future films anyway...


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Yeah, but he was still given a different look upon attaining Godly power--it would've been nice to see something a little more original, is all.

Regardless, I'm fairly confident that we'll see the equivalent of 'SSJG2' in future films anyway...

He will probably look the same as a SSJ2, now that his base form is as strong as a SSG.


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So. If you could change it from the Resurrection of Frieza to the Resurrection of any other Dragon Ball villain—manga, anime, TV specials or movies only—who would it be?

Have to go with Hatchiyack from Plan to Eradicate the Saiyans TV special myself.

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So. If you could change it from the Resurrection of Frieza to the Resurrection of any other Dragon Ball villain—manga, anime, TV specials or movies only—who would it be?

Have to go with Hatchiyack from Plan to Eradicate the Saiyans TV special myself.

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If they're going to bring back a villain, I'm honestly glad it was Freeza. He is, imo, the paramount DBZ villain. I just hope the plot isn't as stupid as some think it will be--I, myself, am optimistic.

Aside from him, I'd like to see: Hatchiyack, Garlic Jr., or Janemba.


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The look of SSJG was terrible. I can only hope Akira improves upon it in this film.

I did think the SSJ4-esque concept/fanart of SSJG was badass, though...

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Eh, I thought the fan art for SSJG was gayer than what Toriyama gave us. I just don't like the whole furry SSJ thing. It looks too much like you're trying to add great ape into it somehow, which isn't where the Saiyan power comes from at all.

Plus, the fan art didn't leave any room for improvement, which was the biggest flaw.

With this new SSJG, it's simple enough that we might even get a SSJG2 or even SSJG3, which would be REALLY badass.


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He will probably look the same as a SSJ2, now that his base form is as strong as a SSG.


Eh, what?

I think you've mistaken the whole "you've absorbed the godly world" thing, entirely.

Goku in his base form is not in any way, shape or form, as strong as SSJG. That would be monstrous.

He DID absorb the feel of godly ki with his memory though, meaning he can use it in his base, and therefor all other, forms. This only means he is a lot stronger. However, his SSJG is still his strongest form. By far.


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If they're going to bring back a villain, I'm honestly glad it was Freeza. He is, imo, the paramount DBZ villain. I just hope the plot isn't as stupid as some think it will be--I, myself, am optimistic.
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I'm glad Toriyama (assuming he is behind the movie) is acknowledging that Freeza is the best Dragon Ball villain.


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Well considering his original intent to end the series after the Namek saga, Frieza was (as a result) his end-all-be-all villain originally (not Majin Buu or whoever came after), so makes sense.

I wouldn't mind Cell, Cooler, or someone being brought back in a significant way in the future, but Frieza, the Saiyan & Namekian genocidest getting the treatment first makes the most sense, really.

Also still hope to see other new gods introduced in the future however, that were mentioned to be even stronger than Bills and Whis.


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