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Surtur
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You are concerned about whether the sex of other people matches their gender presentation, but everyone else is triggered.

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Nah, just not going to tolerate imbeciles dictating the words I use, etc.

Call yourself a woman if you're a man, if you want. But don't pretend you aren't mentally ill and don't demand others adhere to your delusions.


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Nah, just not going to tolerate imbeciles dictating the words I use, etc.

Call yourself a woman if you're a man, if you want. But don't pretend you aren't mentally ill and don't demand others adhere to your delusions.


How do you determine the gender of the people you meet? Do you insist on inspecting their genitals? How do you know the person you accept as a woman on the basis of her appearance is female? How do you know that you are not inadvertently adhering to her "delusions?"


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How do you determine the gender of the people you meet? Do you insist on inspecting their genitals? How do you know the person you accept as a woman on the basis of her appearance is female? How do you know that you are not inadvertently adhering to her "delusions?"


I demand a copy of their birth certificate at gun point.


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Adam_PoE
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Can you tell which, if any, are female just by looking at them?

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Surtur
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And I certainly can't help inadvertently adhering to delusions. I sure as hell won't knowingly do it though. You have a dick, but wanna call yourself a girl? Neat, don't insist others partake in your fantasy. Or hell, you can ask. Just don't whine if they decline.

Hey that rhymes: don't whine if they decline. Remember that motto.


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In other words, you have no idea the sex of the people you interact with day-to-day. You accept the gender they present themselves as without corroboration. That being the case, purposely misgendering people does not make you a strict adherent to reality, it makes you an *******.


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People tend to react a lot different in real life then you get online.. Not because they're disgenuine, but because online tends to be about pissing contests/digging in.

And to be fair to Surt, he gets piled on a lot.

By way of example, a close friend from middle school defriended people (irl) for making bigoted comments like "trailor trash" (He used to live in a park), or racist comments. Yet, when he opted out of a party and I asked him why, he told me "This friend of a friend.. Well, he's gay."

I didn't judge him for it, I have a gay cousin and worked under newscaster who told me he's gay. Took in it, shrugged, and we're still friends.

Point is, I bet if Surt meets a trans, he won't act anything like he's implying here, and if anything right now is lashing out at a percieved "PC or die!" hostile crowd.

Just my opinion..


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That guy sounds like a bit of a d*ck. sad


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Again, I'll let someone pick he or she. Xe, zir, zippitybop, xhe, heli, ~!2/, and all those other made up bullshit words I will never use to refer to someone. I will not be made a mouthpiece for language I do not agree with.


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I'll let someone pick he or she.
such generosity. sad


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People are not entitled to have me refer to them however they want me to refer to them.


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People are not entitled to have me refer to them however they want me to refer to them.


I sexually identify as your lord and savior, and I demand to be addressed as such.

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I sexually identify as your lord and savior, and I demand to be addressed as such.

Are you willing to transition though? You have to fully transition and have yourself nailed to a cross before I'm willing to address you as such.


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Can you tell which, if any, are female just by looking at them?

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Surtur
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Again, I'll let someone pick he or she. Xe, zir, zippitybop, xhe, heli, ~!2/, and all those other made up bullshit words I will never use to refer to someone. I will not be made a mouthpiece for language I do not agree with.


Indeed, if someone wants to refer to themselves as a she when they are really a he...I don't want them to be unable to do that.

Earlier I made a sarcastic comment about how I believe I'm a king and thus I am to be treated like one because my feelings say I am royalty. A person is definitely free to refer to themselves as king all they want, but that doesn't mean we all have to start bowing down.

And essentially some people do seem to feel that threats and/or violence are acceptable if you don't go along with the transgender people. Look at this clip with Ben Shapiro and a transgender named Zoey Tur:



I have to say I find it funny how at one point Dr. Drew acts like award ceremonies aren't that big of a deal, they are just about "attracting eyes", etc. and most everybody claps over that. Lol...I would not be surprised if some of the people who clapped over that are the same people who complained about the oscars being "too white". Imagine if someone had come out and said "Being all white is no big deal, it's just to get ratings" lol.

But yeah so at the end that guy grabs and threatens Ben. Ben isn't a very big guy and the other guy was much larger. After it happens Ben points out how wrong it was that the guy just did that and you can *immediately* see other people on the panel begin to make excuses for what the guy just did. "You were rude" is what one says. So being rude makes threats of violence okay? Lol...just think for a second if, during a debate that was being recorded and put online, a conservative had grabbed a transgender person and made threatening remarks to them. That person would be out of a job lol.


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Can you tell which, if any, are female just by looking at them?

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I'll take a crack at it.

Not confident about the first one, but I'll go with male; something about the face. I'm 99% positive that the second is a male, and that the third is a female, though. That being said, I probably wouldn't suspect any of the three if I wasn't tipped off that they might be trans.

[SPOILER - highlight to read]: ...but how'd I do?

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People are not entitled to have me refer to them however they want me to refer to them.
no, so just dictate to them instead.


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To elaborate, DMB, It seems obvious to me from your comments in this thread (i.e. "gender is binary" & "I'll let them choose he or she") that you are unaccepting of anybody that strays outside of your narrow definition of gender, regardless of whether they compel you to use their pronouns, choosing to belittle and ridicule them instead.

In other words, you're a bigot. sad


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no, so just dictate to them instead.


Um, he isn't saying they can't refer to themselves as whatever they want. What is being said is they cannot dictate what he says. That is not him dictating them. If he was he would say they can't claim they are female if they have a dick.

Which is how it should be. You can identify as whatever you want. You do not get to guilt the rest of us into joining your delusions.


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To elaborate, DMB, It seems obvious to me from your comments in this thread (i.e. "gender is binary" & "I'll let them choose he or she") that you are unaccepting of anybody that strays outside of your narrow definition of gender, regardless of whether they compel you to use their pronouns, choosing to belittle and ridicule them instead.

In other words, you're a bigot. sad


I'm guessing he is such a bigot he probably wouldn't even indulge this wackjobs fantasies either:



Man, can you believe all the bigots in the comment section of that video?

"Back in the good old days, you'd call this man insane and throw him in a psychiatric ward." Wow, what a f*cking bigot this commenter is. Wrong think alert, wrong think alert.


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