I don't see why a villain needs to be more powerful than Thanos. As long as he/she/they is powerful enough to fight the Avengers on equal or superior footing, that's more than enough of a threat imo.
Negan is nauseating and as the show's writers have him as their big bad he's boring and divisive among the fans. He's fallen flat. He's also been around in more episodes but Governor had less men that's why. He rose to the top twice.
No one is as big as Thanos has consistently been. Thanos is the big bad of marvel. Doom has more appearances and at his best he's become the focal point with amps but he's never succeeded like Thanos with his goals. Thanos has won and has only defeated himself. Doom's willpower was broken in secret wars in humiliating fashion and Reed humiliated him as he usually does. Doom can rise to the top but he isn't the successful one Thanos has been. Thanos even saved doom from being killed by Akhtentan or however you spell his name in an endless loop. He was not even smart enough to grasp the situation.
Thanos was the big bad and it took three phases to finally see him. Doom will be a threat in the same vein as Loki. So you accept the bet. If he's the center of a FF story he won't be the big bad he might just be an opportunistic Loki who eventually stumbled onto something which upgrades him not the same cache as Thanos who looms in the background and terrifies aliens all throughout the cosmos. His reputation is quite impressive and stands alone.
Yah. This guy is a troll methinks.. He CAN'T be this ignorant.....
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The Joker was hands down the physically weakest villain in any of the Nolan Batman movies yet he was the best villain in the entire trilogy because he was more interesting. Power is well and good but it doesn't make someone a good or big villain. Superman's biggest enemy has been a human for decades when he's had a flat out interdimensional reality warper like Mr. Mxyzptlk in the roster. Green Goblin would get his butt handed to him in a fight with plenty of Spidey villains like Morlun, Hobgoblin, or Electro yet he's the nemesis. Strange has been up against more powerful entities than even Dormammu. The FF have faced more powerful enemies than Doom, yet he's still their biggest threat and has rocked them harder than any of the others time and time again.
Not to mention that in Dooms sense, he's so versatile. He can play a super grounded and personal villain for the FF like he has done on many occasions. He can play a worldwide threat for the Avengers and actually make them seem inferior to himself. He can play a threat spanning the multiverse against the entire Marvel roster. He can play at whatever level the plot needs him to and play it all convincingly while being a better written, more interesting, and deeper character than Thanos. What makes someone the best villain?
Man, I can't wait for Mags. I'm pretty sad about losing Fassbender for when they recast him but he's another big villain specific to a team who can still play an amazing Avengers villain. It will be nice to have him and Doom in the MCU. Two of the greatest Marvel villains and both are back home.
Can't say I agree at all. Anyone powerful enough to beat the Avengers single-handed isn't going to have much trouble with the Guardians and Black Panther.
You could easily do someone like Kang or a less-crap Ultron and they'd work just fine.
That was never promised. And Snoke [SPOILER - highlight to read]: was clearly not in Palpatine’s League, and yet TLJ has had the 2nd biggest opening of all time.
I feel like they shouldn't escalate the power levels of stories right away after the infinity war. I feel like more grounded stories can be made without having to make every threat cosmic+ in nature to mix up the pace of storytelling a bit. Cosmic this and cosmic that (especially since that's the direction of the JL it looks like) would just become boring eventually IMO.
If I were to pick a villain, I'd say Mole Man. Tho, prolly not as an Avengers villain. Maybe for a FF reboot?
Giant Kaiju type creatures. Armies of moloids. Underground battles (could be an interesting setting, since being away from the main cities means that they can cut loose with the power). It would be a fresh change of pace from all the space/cosmic stuff that's being thrown at us.
Doesn't have the oomph factor of a cosmic big bad, but maybe a temporary shift in direction will help keep the movies from getting repetitive.
1) When fully explored, as in the comics, he has an excellent backstory and is rich in character depth...
His hatred for Reed Richards and desire to free his mom from Mephisto can make for some awesome story telling...
2) He is much more than just raw power...
Dr Doom has one of the strongest intellects in Marvel and as such, he can be a part of a compelling story without need for the constant "power creep" that we sometimes see in movies (with each baddie being more powerful than the one before him endlessly)...
3) Doom is so versatile that he can be almost anyone's enemy and fit the role nicely; he'd fit just as well against Strange as he would against the Avengers or the Fantastic Four...
In conclusion, its gotta be Doom...
Its gotta be...
And to add to the reasons stated above (after several disappointing incarnations of him on the big screen) we are owed the REAL Dr Doom d@mmit!!
We've had enough with these fake Dooms that Fox has exposed us to; lets see Dr Doom realized in all his comicbook glory...
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