People really need to stop credence to H1's comments...
Hulk did in fact stop the leviathon in the manner in which we're discussing. While Hulk was initially pushed back his feet eventually found footing and he came to a complete stop, then the moment of the leviathan transferred back through it's body; causing it to flip over him.
You can see Hulk come to a stop at around the 00:57 mark:
"We are" me and the other poster (not you).
The forward momentum wasn't stopped. It was flipping over (forward). The center of gravity was still moving forward.
Second, it was a bracing feat. Hulk attempted to push it at one point of the feat and the push did nothing.
The force needed TO COMPLETELY STOP IT in the distance that it was stopped (started flipping) can be easily calculated. And it isn't a lot.
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I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.
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Wrong. Hulk fully stopped it, the second he stopped moving, why the momentum transferred rearward and why it then flipped tail first over Hulk's now completely prone body.
It's fine if your hate the Hulk as you do, but your low-balling is clownish.
Using F = dp/dt = m*dv/dt = ma, Hulk needed to exert a shit-ton of force.
I'll just laugh at your sad attmepts to low-ball the feats of characters you don't want to win.
__________________ posted by Badabing
I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.
That's what the consensus is about. No lowballing. We all agree to the numbers before calculating.
Mass of leviathan
Time it took the leviathan to start flipping (from Hulk's initial punch).
Approximate speed the leviathan was going before the punch.
Okay, I did the maths, Hulk exerted over 9,000 tons of force to stop the leviathan to the point its momentum transferred and it pivoted over the Hulk tail over head.
Dark World was such a stupid movie. Strength should never factor into picking up or deflecting Mjolnir, and they did that just to give the villain a moment in a sub par fight scene. So stupid.
Anyway, if we're assuming Mjolnir can be redirected through strength (and nothing else I'm missing factored in), and Kurse is the baseline, then yes, Zod can do it without much trouble.
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I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.
20,000 tons
Hulk punched it at 00:52; it's basically vertical at 00:56, using maths that is 4 seconds or less
40-45mph
We must also account for that the leviathan did not only have momentum of P=MV on its side, it was actively being driven forward by whatever it uses to propel it's ultra-large mass through the air, so Hulk had to counter that force too. Think of trying to stop a car that is coasting at 40-45mph, versus stopping one that is actively being driven at 40-45 with the power of its engine.
Ergo, Hulk had to exert a shit-ton of force to counter that and then stop the leviathan causing it to pivot and flip. No matter how you downplay, it's a very impressive feat of both strength and durability, as Hulk's body would have been subject to the forces and counter-forces therein the feat.
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Don’t think Zod can do it cuz dark elves had some “anti-Asgardian” ability or magic or something, but Zod would still be at least as strong and durable otherwise.
And the leviathan wasn't stopped at 0:57. So what will we be calculating exactly? I would say the once the leviathan completely flipped over it would have stopped. So at about 1:07 it would have completely stopped. So 15 seconds.
Nope, it's at least 12,000. probably closer to 18,000
__________________ posted by Badabing
I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.
What’s your basis for the estimate (especially given what a blue whale weighs)?
Hulk didn’t fully stop it. It’s forward momentum wasn’t ever 0. You have very little understanding of physics. It’s about the center of gravity. The leviathans center of gravity was still going forward. Making something rotate without stopping forward momentum has NOTHING to do with stopping forward momentum.
I don’t hate Hulk. I actually represent Hulk (mostly WBHulk) in the comic section over everyone (even Superman).
I just hate when people (with little to no physics understanding) blow feats up to proportions far above what the really are. And you are foolish and ignorant to think I’m lowballing when in actuality I’m inflating the numbers to appease everyone here.
You don’t have to accept my word on it. Ask anyone with a physics background (professor or grad student, etc). You can even go to physicsforum.com and ask any of the physicists (there are a shitload of them there).
The hammer wasn't even made by the Asgardians though, right? I thought it was made in the same place Thor gets Stormbreaker.
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