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Who are these people? I'd have to know first?


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Who are these people? I'd have to know first?


So just to be clear...you've labeled people alt right when you don't even know them?


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A single example a sample group does not make, particularly when a lot of contrary evidence from Trumpers is obvious.


I disagree.

This single example disproves the narrative you're trying to push. Particularly when there is a lot of contrary evidence to the factually incorrect libtarded narrative you're trying to push.


Go ahead, post this amazing evidence you have to push your narrative. wink


edit - and before the goalposts get moved, remember, this is about Trumpers being Nazi Fascists. If they are, why are Nazi's not tolerated among Trumpers?


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My favorite part of the video is when one of them tells him to go stand over with the anti-Trumpers who are the actual fascists. lol


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Historically hasn’t the Democrat party voted against slaves and immigrants? Going back to the 14th amendment


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Originally posted by dadudemon
I disagree.

This single example disproves the narrative you're trying to push. Particularly when there is a lot of contrary evidence to the factually incorrect libtarded narrative you're trying to push.


Go ahead, post this amazing evidence you have to push your narrative. wink


edit - and before the goalposts get moved, remember, this is about Trumpers being Nazi Fascists. If they are, why are Nazi's not tolerated among Trumpers?
will reply properly tomorrow, no time now this evening DDM.


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My favorite part of the video is when one of them tells him to go stand over with the anti-Trumpers who are the actual fascists. lol


So what is your opinion on the way some here misuse the term alt right? Do you buy the "it's the vernacular yo!" excuse? Just curious where you stand.


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clearly not as I'm not a murderer or a criminal anymore, my record was spent decades ago.


So years ago when you were a criminal-by your logic-you were a murderer then?

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Most Ttump supporters do not identify as or even share a great deal in common with neo-nazis imo, no.


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So what is your opinion on the way some here misuse the term alt right? Do you buy the "it's the vernacular yo!" excuse? Just curious where you stand.


Why does the left paint moderates and conservatives, who criticize the lefitsts, as fascists, "Alt-Righters", and Nazis?

There's a very good reason why.


Using these derogatory labels on people who oppose them or people they think oppose them allows them to think of these people as lesser humans. "Look, these people are not up here with the quality people. These low-quality people are subhuman."

Once you take that step, intellectually, you can justify quite a bit more things in you mind that you normally would not.

"An alt-right Nazi was punched in the face? Good! Serves her right!" Whereas, before, in any other context, they would oppose a woman being punched in the face for their beliefs. "Al-righter was silenced from speaking their political beliefs after getting approval to speak? Good, that's what that piece of trash deserves." Whereas, before, they would literally be rioting if one of their "speakers" was silenced.


This is the same tactic that the Nazis used to justify murdering millions of Jews. They were labeled as subhuman, lessers. Made it easier to justify how they treated them. Interesting, isn't it?


The leftists who misuse the labels "Nazi", "Alt-Right", and "Facist" are using the same tactic Nazis used to justify killing Jews.

An intelligent poster in this thread talked about this. Stuff like this is how we get a holocaust. It starts there.


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Why does the left paint moderates and conservatives, who criticize the lefitsts, as fascists, "Alt-Righters", and Nazis?

There's a very good reason why.


Using these derogatory labels on people who oppose them or people they think oppose them allows them to think of these people as lesser humans. "Look, these people are not up here with the quality people. These low-quality people are subhuman."

Once you take that step, intellectually, you can justify quite a bit more things in you mind that you normally would not.

"An alt-right Nazi was punched in the face? Good! Serves her right!" Whereas, before, in any other context, they would oppose a woman being punched in the face for their beliefs. "Al-righter was silenced from speaking their political beliefs after getting approval to speak? Good, that's what that piece of trash deserves." Whereas, before, they would literally be rioting if one of their "speakers" was silenced.


This is the same tactic that the Nazis used to justify murdering millions of Jews. They were labeled as subhuman, lessers. Made it easier to justify how they treated them. Interesting, isn't it?


The leftists who misuse the labels "Nazi", "Alt-Right", and "Facist" are using the same tactic Nazis used to justify killing Jews.

An intelligent poster in this thread talked about this. Stuff like this is how we get a holocaust. It starts there.


Damn, great post thumb up


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Yeah, very few in today's world would outright come out as a Nazis. They'd also obviously try to evade any direct connection to Nazism. The same way if someone were to dress up like a Fascist in a far-left rally, they'd get called out for being a Fascist.

That doesn't mean some parts of their ideology don't correspond to the Nazi ideology.


This is what I am talking about when I sarcastically described it as a "high bar." There are plenty of people who think anything short of being a Klansman means you are not racist. So putting a guy wearing a Swastika in front of someone, and then sticking a camera in their face, proves what exactly? That they do not want to associated with that symbol. It does not mean they are not racist or fascist or bigoted.


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I legitimately feel pity for people that can't tell the difference between the local moron that yells out racial slurs and the group of people responsible for the Holocaust.


How the **** do you think the Holocaust started? They did not go from zero to genocide. It started with Nationalism and White Supremacy, and the creeping acceptability of demonizing and scapegoating minorities.


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Yeah, very few in today's world would outright come out as a Nazis. They'd also obviously try to evade any direct connection to Nazism. The same way if someone were to dress up like a Fascist in a far-left rally, they'd get called out for being a Fascist.

That doesn't mean some parts of their ideology don't correspond to the Nazi ideology.

Here's what I think and hope separates you from Putinbot though, you aren't just going to assume someone is a secret racist just because they're a right-winger or conservative without any evidence to back it up... right?


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Originally posted by Adam_PoE
How the **** do you think the Holocaust started? They did not go from zero to genocide. It started with Nationalism and White Supremacy, and the creeping acceptability of demonizing and scapegoating minorities.


Sounds like a lot of the Rhetoric that the Left Uses all the time now.


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How the **** do you think the Holocaust started? They did not go from zero to genocide. It started with Nationalism and White Supremacy, and the creeping acceptability of demonizing and scapegoating minorities.


From the Nazis, not racists in general. hence me pointing out that you can be racist without being a Nazi.


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I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.

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From the Nazis, not racists in general. hence me pointing out that you can be racist without being a Nazi.
and you completely miss Adams point the same point I've tried half a dozen different ways go show you. Funny stuff, when I have time I'll try one last time. Beginning to think you guys are the alt right tbh.


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Why does the left paint moderates and conservatives, who criticize the lefitsts, as fascists, "Alt-Righters", and Nazis?

There's a very good reason why.


Using these derogatory labels on people who oppose them or people they think oppose them allows them to think of these people as lesser humans. "Look, these people are not up here with the quality people. These low-quality people are subhuman."

Once you take that step, intellectually, you can justify quite a bit more things in you mind that you normally would not.

"An alt-right Nazi was punched in the face? Good! Serves her right!" Whereas, before, in any other context, they would oppose a woman being punched in the face for their beliefs. "Al-righter was silenced from speaking their political beliefs after getting approval to speak? Good, that's what that piece of trash deserves." Whereas, before, they would literally be rioting if one of their "speakers" was silenced.


This is the same tactic that the Nazis used to justify murdering millions of Jews. They were labeled as subhuman, lessers. Made it easier to justify how they treated them. Interesting, isn't it?


The leftists who misuse the labels "Nazi", "Alt-Right", and "Facist" are using the same tactic Nazis used to justify killing Jews.

An intelligent poster in this thread talked about this. Stuff like this is how we get a holocaust. It starts there.


Agreed.


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I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.

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This is what I am talking about when I sarcastically described it as a "high bar." There are plenty of people who think anything short of being a Klansman means you are not racist. So putting a guy wearing a Swastika in front of someone, and then sticking a camera in their face, proves what exactly? That they do not want to associated with that symbol. It does not mean they are not racist or fascist or bigoted.


Most of them were not aware of the camera, though. How does that change your point?


And based on your conclusory statement, does that mean you'll stop calling Trumpers Nazis and Fascists? Seems like you should if you make that conclusion.


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So putting a guy wearing a Swastika in front of someone, and then sticking a camera in their face, proves what exactly? That they do not want to associated with that symbol. It does not mean they are not racist or fascist or bigoted.

The burden of proof is not on them to prove they are not what you implicitly claim them to be Adam.

How about I say that you hate Christians? That you want to use state force to shut down all churches, either murder us all or send us to reeducation camps, hmmm?

You'd deny it of course, but that's exactly what someone like that would do, you wouldn't want to be exposed would you Adam? It gets in the way of your genocidal schemes if we find you out, doesn't it, Adam? You're just hiding in the shadows waiting until people like you get enough power and the moment that happens you're going to send me and my religious community to the gas chambers, aren't you, Adam?


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