Wolverine vs. Spider-Man

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Characters evolve, thats what happens. Spider-man used to get out muscled by the King Pin and was barely in 2 ton range, know look at him.

Spiderman was always a 10 ton lifter, but writers seldomly show his strength, on comics, shows, or games, he uses it on the movies though, but the only stronger characters when he arrived were: Thanos, Hulk, Thing, Dr. Doom and anyother that were out that long before him, but his evolvements are listed, wolverine's arent, he is supposed to be out from good attacks, but then his popularity rose.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
I don't think Wolverine can beat Spider-man in a fight the majority of the time. I have no problem with people thinking Spider-man can beat Wolverine because I feel the same, it's the crackpot reasons people give. The only thing Spidy has that lets him hang with Wolverine his webbing, his attributes are enough above Wolverine's to even start to make a difference (unless we are taking an arm wrestling match).

Yea, but Spiderman would be the greater threat to a wider scale of opponents, and has more advantages and options than wolverine, long range, and short, he can stay on walls, or hit wolverine with a good attack, remove his organs, ignore the skeleton, suffocate him.etc.

I understand these lousy reasons, like wolverine beating godzilla, magneto, etc. but I like to know why some character would win, not what they were shown to do in inconsistent matchups, I know that has happened, but this is a hypothetical matchup, what hasn't happened doesn't mean it can't happen. Besides spiderman takes on foes that would eat wolverine for breakfast, and he isn't escaping a bus on top of him......

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Hehe... I think that Spider-man fanboys are the ones who hate Wolverine for the exact opposite reason you listed (or rather the same reason in reverse)

I don't see, people buying up wolverine shirts at hot topic, or having wolverine car custom paint, or wolverine bedsheets,lol. But spiderman has had more time to develop, and appeals to all ages with his humor and women, like flash.

Cool post. 😮‍💨

^ Like he said above^ Wolverines fight sick people but half the time he has the whole xmen with him. Spidey could fight most of them by him self.

Wolverine is alot like batman, he's great but people forget that he has gods with him...............

ITs like wrestling, they want to see the lesser guy rise so they make him do well against the good guy, then people lose their common sense and make foolish comparisons.

Spiderman is much more adept at taking on multiple opponents,and could kill humans faster than even wolverine could, he would laugh at one guy trying to swipe him with knives.

So Spiderman is more popular and now Wolverine only fights weaklings. . . Great, the Hulk is a weakling now. . .

No switch that around, and remember the debut match of wolverine, the one that was made to show the new guy off.

Spiderman is not less popular than wolverine, by any stretch of the imagination, or else there would be a wolverine movie, oh wait, his character hasn't developed to that point.

Spiderman is not less popular than wolverine, by any stretch of the imagination, or else there would be a wolverine movie, oh wait, his character hasn't developed to that point

Actually, Wolverine the movie is currently in development as an official spin-off from the X-Men series of movies, starring Hugh Jackman.

You popped my bubble.

But still.......

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
No switch that around, and remember the debut match of wolverine, the one that was made to show the new guy off.

Spiderman is not less popular than wolverine, by any stretch of the imagination, or else there would be a wolverine movie, oh wait, his character hasn't developed to that point.

I'm saying that now you're claiming that Spiderman is more popular. Since "him being marvel's #1 boy was the only reason Wolverine was able to stand up to those people he did" then Spiderman's popularity should also be the only reason for him to be able to stand up to anybody as well. Right?

That's why bringing in "popularity" as an argument is ad populem. It's not a valid argument as it's relying on the populace's opinion. Opinion is not fact, though you can share an opinion with what is fact.

Spiderman's popularity was based off of getting smacked around alot too, but you're right its no better than using polls.

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
Spiderman was always a 10 ton lifter, but writers seldomly show his strength, on comics, shows, or games, he uses it on the movies though, but the only stronger characters when he arrived were: Thanos, Hulk, Thing, Dr. Doom and anyother that were out that long before him, but his evolvements are listed, wolverine's arent, he is supposed to be out from good attacks, but then his popularity rose.

...what are you talking about? Where did you get the idea Spider-man was always a ten ton lifter? He didn't start out as one and he is twice that now. The only example I can think of is the fact that Parker couldn't break the steel coil of the first Spiderslayer... and that wouldn't require close to 10 ton strength. He was around the 2 ton range as a teenager.

It says so in his synopsis, look it up on page 2, my link died.

are you gonna listen to a synopsis? or go by what's actually been prove---oh wait nevermind I forgot who I was asking for a second....

when was it said, spiderman has had problems lifting volkswagons, but then lifted a tank before, but I know without a doubt he is a 15 ton lifter.

Events that happen once here and there aren't good proof, but who am i talking to?

It was on the stats UNDER the synopsis, look at it yourself.

I don't care what a half assed stat sheet says...if the thing is incorrect it's incorrect....life exeriences..characters develop over time....when has spiderman ever lifted a full blown tank?

Originally posted by jinzin
I don't care what a half assed stat sheet says...if the thing is incorrect it's incorrect....life exeriences..characters develop over time....when has spiderman ever lifted a full blown tank?

Lol I agree with you on some aspects, but why ask if you were going to disagree.

I said the same thing, tanks are too heavy for spidey, but venom and carnage could lift one, It was an older comic though, and a non modern tank, which can easily weigh 100 tons.

I need to find the comic page good sir.

I've never seen carnage or venom lift a tank except in the cartoon...even still they are both exponentially stronger than spidey....

Yes Venoms a 25 class I believe, and I am uncertain of carnage's max str.

Originally posted by jinzin
I don't care what a half assed stat sheet says...if the thing is incorrect it's incorrect....life exeriences..characters develop over time....when has spiderman ever lifted a full blown tank?

How could Spidey throw a tank?

Tanks weigh temendous amounts!!

He might've thrown a 5ton personnel carrier or something, but a proper full on tank is asking a bit much for spidey-strength.

Far as i know Spidey has been a 10 tonner since Stan Lee started putting him down on paper.IF he lifted a Tank at all its a product of the writers screwing up and letting him do something he shouldnt

Of course that doesnt apply to Wolverine who should get credit for all stupid decisions his writers make.Like not having bone claw Wolverine be turned into jello after being hit by Hulk