Spidey still takes this. He webs Wolverine up to prevent leverage and drops him in a river or off a skyscraper. Spidey's too fast and too strong for Wolverine. His spidersense helps him to dodge wolverines attacks and the only thing Wolverine has going for him is his healing factor which will start to give out in my opinion if he is drowned.
Originally posted by CorderaMitchellThat's real mature. . .
Well well well, you leave for a few hours of sleep and some animals overstep their boundaries.
Originally posted by CorderaMitchellYou mean like what marvel does? I mean they don't provide a step-by-step documentary explaining each little thing.
Jinzin, you're always bitching "Why does everyone say my scans and opinions are biased?." Well its because THEY ARE!!! You do little else, but throw them up there and say, accept it. I don't accept things given to me you do little other than explain.
Why did spiderman decide to do this, or this? how much force is he using in this shot? or this one? What is Spiderman's full plan here, or here?
I've already touched on that whole stupid "No explination" bs you keep trying to pull out.
"No explination? Must no have happened!" Is piss poor logic. You have an explination as to why chiris clairmont decided to have wolverine in yellow? Or with metal claws? Whay did he choose the first design he had?
Oh, no explination? Must not have happened then!
Originally posted by CorderaMitchellPeople worth their weight in salt can see through FACTS? No, only the foolish ignnore FACTS. . .
THAT and whenever some argument concerns one of your characters(wolverine for example), you go to all means, showing facts and inconsistencies to prove your points. Anyone worth their weight in salt, can see right through that crap.
Originally posted by CorderaMitchellWhat Marvel chose to do with THEIR characters is half assed? That mean ANYTHING ANY marvel character does is half assed.
You dont' want to see wolveirne lose because you like him too much. All you end up doing is putting up half assed reasons, to support your own character.
Better than your reasons: Wolverine should lose because he's a one trick pony.
Wolverine is inconsistant.
His healing factor is PIS/CIS.
Originally posted by CorderaMitchellYou think three consistant encounters between the two are shit writing? Oh that's right you think ANYTHING involving wolverine is shit writting, because you think his healing factor is shit writing.
As I love to see you cater to the shitty notions of fanboys, whats worse is you cant' smell shit writing.
In this case the shit writting is all in your head.
Originally posted by CorderaMitchellOh, I guess anything that marvel does with their own character is shit writing then? Because again "No explination? Must not have happened!" Is piss poor logic.
Period, when it involves batman and wolverine at least. All I get from you and cresh is," it happened". Pfft, thats a shit argument,
Originally posted by CorderaMitchellNeither do you, in fact all you've done is use your own opinion. Period.
you have no way to support or explain your ridiculous claims, ever.
Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
I loooooooooove how you guys only answer to points YOU THINK you can counter. Nice try, I see through that shit too, I asked you explicitly, if spiderman could keep out of wolverine's reach, then he could discard him, no different than superman could discard the hulk. It was ignored, you think I forgot?
Originally posted by CorderaMitchellNo, you do have difficulty following train of thoughts. It's almost like each post is a new conversation sometimes.
Another thing, trains of thought, man please. ;I've been explaining proficiency types for the longest, and all I get is a bunch of half competent opponents who know jack about them. You can't explain them, because they are over your head. You tried to take what merc said and use it about cars doing less damage than martial artists hits. When I popped that , you finally realized it was a lesser collision.
Like in the FFvs Xmen and Spidey thread, when spiderman was using the hydrant to attack HT, I said that that would mean that spidey was stationary right by the hydrant while trying to redirect it to HT, so would be a sitting duck and you came in and said spiderman would dodge. . . ignoreing the fact that means leaving the hydrant removing that from his options. . . he cant both dodge and use the hydrant. . .
Or like in the Storm versus collosus thread where I challanged the notion of it being a stalemate and you asked me "why are you implying that storm could beat collosus then"?
I thought it was pretty obvious I thought Storm could beat Collosus. . .
Originally posted by CorderaMitchellSchizofreniks see people that arent' there, Mirages and hallucinations are things that likewise people see. . .
Funny thing is, I've been smacking you around more and more since my arrival, I and OTHERS see that very well.
What you think you see is not necciserily true, without complete comprehension of what you're seeing.
Originally posted by CorderaMitchelltruth hurts doesn't it?
You get backed up on a wall"best debators thread", and you spit more and more, and it really makes you sound like an ass. Most of your arguments on your side are," Marvel doesn't agree,pfft 🙄 ." Man that shit is old, tired, and lame.
I mean seiriously. If Marvel decides to do something there is NOTHING you can do about it. Is there?
Originally posted by CorderaMitchellOr that you are in denial, you don't control another person's copyrighted works in their publications. No matter how much you think you do.
That convinces not me, my team, new people, or guests who read this board before they join, it makes YOU look like the ass.
Originally posted by CorderaMitchellYou have shit arguments.
I'm tired of ***** arguments to get around my points. "wolvie hater", no, I hate guys like you who go at no end to defend him.
"He's inconsistant!" "He's a one trick pony" "One of his powers is Pis/cis" "You've giuven no explination as to the why of how marvel has portrayed its own characters."
Originally posted by CorderaMitchellStill ad populem. Doesn't matter who agrees with you and disagrees with you. Subjective opinion doesn't change objective truth.
OWNAGE 😆 , ownage you mean like in the batman spiderman thread, where I, and noone else started bringing in new elements like proficiencies, counter types, and damage by velocity to shut up your shitty notions of "batman is the better fighter", and since page 148, where there were a whole load of people who came on and agreed with every word i said,
Originally posted by CorderaMitchellDifferent types of inteligence, and different opinions. . .
the thread MYSTERIOUSLY got less popular, and people started backing off. That thread? Even Wanderer doesn't come on that much, and he was the only one worth arguing. The only people there are a Warner brothers employee/DC fanboy, and a guy who wants to see spiderman lose(you). I argue for you and even water down my posts, as I see your lack of intelligence
Originally posted by CorderaMitchellSo what are you doing here?
prevents you from answering a question, that thread? Yea I'm just playing with my food, as I see you and life are just arguing for the hell of it.
You're an animal, you lack inteligence, You are like food to me.
What the hell does that have to do with this thread?
Originally posted by CorderaMitchellFunny how Marvel disa- blah blah you've heard it before. . .
I revived that thread foolishly by putting up pics, and it started over.OWNAGE: this thread, the thread where anyone of decent reasoning can see that spiderman wins,
Originally posted by CorderaMitchellSo if you didn't know about electricity, or lightning and you saw a bolt of lightning in front of you, without explination, that bolt of lightning must not have happened huh?
EVEN 4 WOLVERINE FANBOYS!! This thread I had shut down for 6 days! The ONLY reason it came back up, is because I put that pic up of wolverine, and you started all over with yours. Too bad you can't reason what you put up, eh?
Originally posted by CorderaMitchellNo, that's ad populem. . .
This thread where, I convinced 4 people 2 days ago, while your sarcasm could not, and everyone mysteriously logged off and came back at 1am to start up, after i left. That friend is ownage.
Originally posted by CorderaMitchellYou're right. . . What does that have to do with this thread?
Or how about that little thread SFvsMKvsKI. The one where you knew nothing of KI, and resorted to a poor argument which had nothing to do with the characters mentioned. Like AC said, your tendencies to irrelevancy is annoying.
Originally posted by willRulesGiving an enviromental advantage to spiderman?
Spidey still takes this. He webs Wolverine up to prevent leverage and drops him in a river or off a skyscraper. Spidey's too fast and too strong for Wolverine. His spidersense helps him to dodge wolverines attacks and the only thing Wolverine has going for him is his healing factor which will start to give out in my opinion if he is drowned.
Wolverine has clawed his way out of webbing before.
Originally posted by PyropsychoHave I mentioned how much I hate cluster****ing?
Wise said words, I've been reading many of your debates, and you make really good points. I agree with every word you say, you think of things in ways others don't, and you are persistent. Good work!Nice Burn! 💃
I hate it when people pat me on the back, I hate it when there are posts irrelevant to the topic that consist of JUST patting someone on the back. . .
Originally posted by Creshosk
Giving an enviromental advantage to spiderman?Wolverine has clawed his way out of webbing before.
Im not a Spider-man fanboy but I would still say spidey wins this if they fought in an empty arena cos of the stats comparison. Don't get me wrong you have put up some great reasons why you think Wolverine can win this I just think Spidey wins (in my opinion.) 🙂
Originally posted by willRulesDAmnit. . . you put that "in my opinion" line in. . . I can't attack your opinion. . .It forces me to agree to disagree with you here. . . 😛
Im not a Spider-man fanboy but I would still say spidey wins this if they fought in an empty arena cos of the stats comparison. Don't get me wrong you have put up some great reasons why you think Wolverine can win this I just think Spidey wins (in my opinion.) 🙂
Can't fault you for having a difference of opinion.
Originally posted by Creshosk
That's real mature. . .You mean like what marvel does? I mean they don't provide a step-by-step documentary explaining each little thing.
Why did spiderman decide to do this, or this? how much force is he using in this shot? or this one? What is Spiderman's full plan here, or here?
I've already touched on that whole stupid "No explination" bs you keep trying to pull out.
"No explination? Must no have happened!" Is piss poor logic. You have an explination as to why chiris clairmont decided to have wolverine in yellow? Or with metal claws? Whay did he choose the first design he had?
Oh, no explination? Must not have happened then!
People worth their weight in salt can see through FACTS? No, only the foolish ignnore FACTS. . .
What Marvel chose to do with THEIR characters is half assed? That mean ANYTHING ANY marvel character does is half assed.
Better than your reasons: Wolverine should lose because he's a one trick pony.
Wolverine is inconsistant.
His healing factor is PIS/CIS.You think three consistant encounters between the two are shit writing? Oh that's right you think ANYTHING involving wolverine is shit writting, because you think his healing factor is shit writing.
In this case the shit writting is all in your head.
Oh, I guess anything that marvel does with their own character is shit writing then? Because again "No explination? Must not have happened!" Is piss poor logic.
Neither do you, in fact all you've done is use your own opinion. Period.
Sure Spiderman could keep out of wolverine's reach until he tired and started getting sloppy. . . If he runs to recooperate then he's retreating. . .
No, you do have difficulty following train of thoughts. It's almost like each post is a new conversation sometimes.
Like in the FFvs Xmen and Spidey thread, when spiderman was using the hydrant to attack HT, I said that that would mean that spidey was stationary right by the hydrant while trying to redirect it to HT, so would be a sitting duck and you came in and said spiderman would dodge. . . ignoreing the fact that means leaving the hydrant removing that from his options. . . he cant both dodge and use the hydrant. . .
Or like in the Storm versus collosus thread where I challanged the notion of it being a stalemate and you asked me "why are you implying that storm could beat collosus then"?
I thought it was pretty obvious I thought Storm could beat Collosus. . .
Schizofreniks see people that arent' there, Mirages and hallucinations are things that likewise people see. . .
What you think you see is not necciserily true, without complete comprehension of what you're seeing.
truth hurts doesn't it?
I mean seiriously. If Marvel decides to do something there is NOTHING you can do about it. Is there?
Or that you are in denial, you don't control another person's copyrighted works in their publications. No matter how much you think you do.
You have shit arguments.
"He's inconsistant!" "He's a one trick pony" "One of his powers is Pis/cis" "You've giuven no explination as to the why of how marvel has portrayed its own characters."
Still ad populem. Doesn't matter who agrees with you and disagrees with you. Subjective opinion doesn't change objective truth.
Different types of inteligence, and different opinions. . .
So what are you doing here?
You're an animal, you lack inteligence, You are like food to me.
What the hell does that have to do with this thread?
Funny how Marvel disa- blah blah you've heard it before. . .
So if you didn't know about electricity, or lightning and you saw a bolt of lightning in front of you, without explination, that bolt of lightning must not have happened huh?
No, that's ad populem. . .
You're right. . . What does that have to do with this thread?
You say the same old thing, you contribute little and think you contribute alot, you just argue to argue. You cater to how wolverine will beat these people why? He has claws so he wins, and a healing factor, that explains nothing. Storm versus colossus, explain you didn't do. In fact you knew little of what you were talking about so it stuck out like a sore thumb. To the center of the earth? Shows you aren't used to explaining anything.
Jargon means little, how will wolveirne win, he only has one tactic, to slash. Thats a one trick pony, I've given out many reasons, you skip them. Where were you, how would you know, you started back in a month. Stop swinging off jinzin's balls hypocrite.
Originally posted by Creshosk
DAmnit. . . you put that "in my opinion" line in. . . I can't attack your opinion. . .It forces me to agree to disagree with you here. . . 😛Can't fault you for having a difference of opinion.
Give spiderman an up close battle, so he loses like you want him to?
I like it so it CAN happen. Pftt, means little.
Originally posted by CorderaMitchellThink about that. The same applies to you as well.
You say the same old thing, you contribute little and think you contribute alot, you just argue to argue.
Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
You cater to how wolverine will beat these people why? He has claws so he wins, and a healing factor, that explains nothing.
I think he can claw out of Spiderman's webbing. And he can heal from the damage Spiderman gives him.
Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
Storm versus colossus, explain you didn't do.
You want me to explain what in that thread?
I've told you the tactic. And I've explained what it is supposed to do.
Originally posted by CorderaMitchellI've changed tactics. . . But as I said, it was either to batter him as hard as Storm could against the cloasest hardest, most available substance.
In fact you knew little of what you were talking about so it stuck out like a sore thumb. To the center of the earth? Shows you aren't used to explaining anything.
"For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction"
Slamming him against the ground is like slamming the ground against him. . .
And I've used a different tactic now since It presented itself. . .
Originally posted by CorderaMitchellOutlast Spiderman and wait until he tires or makes a mistake. That's the only way he can win.
Jargon means little, how will wolveirne win,
Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
he only has one tactic, to slash. Thats a one trick pony,
What does it matter? Spiderman wins because he's cooler?
Didn't we cover this? Doesn't matter if they are a one trick pony or not.
Originally posted by CorderaMitchellOh, so now I'm swinging off of jinzin's balls when a second ago he was swinging off of mine?
I've given out many reasons, you skip them. No, I counter them, You ignore my counter points and then say that I never made them.[QUOTE=4437469]Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
Where were you, how would you know, you started back in a month. Stop swinging off jinzin's balls hypocrite.
You seem to be a one trick pony too recently, and that's Merc's trick as well. . . Ad hominem: attack the debater rather than the debates.
REally, I've been contributing more than you, where were you?
Outlasting spiderman to win, is the only way"a one trick pony", you just covertly said it yourself.
Do you think he will claw spiderman's webbing, if he can't use his arms.
Mutual ballswinging, the post had nothing to do with you, and you went all over it.
Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
Give spiderman an up close battle, so he loses like you want him to?
I like it so it CAN happen. Pftt, means little.
No, That's what wolverine would probably force.
By slashing the webbing it renders it useless. . . So what else can spiderman do?
Use the Environmetal Advantage people keep giving to him, and throw a car at him, which may or may not be there depending on the environment?
If he has nothing to throw what's he going to do?
Wear himself out trying to wait for wolverine to get tired?
Originally posted by Creshosk
No, That's what wolverine would probably force.By slashing the webbing it renders it useless. . . So what else can spiderman do?
Use the Environmetal Advantage people keep giving to him, and throw a car at him, which may or may not be there depending on the environment?
If he has nothing to throw what's he going to do?
Wear himself out trying to wait for wolverine to get tired?
He can't force it if spiderman is MUCH faster and can wallcrawl.
Logan can't win if peter: removes organs, pins him under a car, web him where he cannot use claws, stalemate him by staying on a wall, or discarding him, like superman would do to the hulk.
Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
REally, I've been contributing more than you, where were you?
Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
You say the same old thing, you contribute little and think you contribute alot, you just argue to argue.
No seriously. . people say I repeat myself, why do you think that is?
Is it because I'm attacking the same damn points, with the same damn counterpoints?
Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
Outlasting spiderman to win, is the only way"a one trick pony", you just covertly said it yourself.
AGIAN, what does it matter if he's a one trick pony?
He's not as cool as spiderman?
Spiderman wins because he's cooler?
No seriously, what's the point of pointing out that he's inconsistant or a one trick pony? What difference does it make?
Originally posted by CorderaMitchellYou'd have to in capacitate his arms. . . Which is something that you're just giving to him. . . He's clawed out before TWICE when spiderman webbed him up, and spiderman STARTED with the arms. . .
Do you think he will claw spiderman's webbing, if he can't use his arms.
This to me looks like maybe he can't, because he hasn't despite trying.
Originally posted by CorderaMitchellBecause I attack illogic. period.
Mutual ballswinging, the post had nothing to do with you, and you went all over it.
If you didn't want to present it in such a way that I couldn't attack it you should have done it in such a way that it was not out in the open on a publicly accesible message board. . .
Originally posted by CorderaMitchellSo what's he going to do? Run?
He can't force it if spiderman is MUCH faster and can wallcrawl.
It's probably a smart idea to run from wolverine but seriously. . .
He's going to beat wolverine by running from him?
Originally posted by CorderaMitchellthat takes us back to your take on his healing factor which is different than the way he's been portrayed multiple times in the comics.
Logan can't win if peter: removes organs,
It's like saying that Spiderman has a new power he didn't have, or doesn't have a power that he's always had. . .
Originally posted by CorderaMitchellYup,. knew it. . you're giving spiderman an enviromental advantage to help him win. . .
pins him under a car,
Originally posted by CorderaMitchellCovered this, if you'll forgive the pun.
web him where he cannot use claws,
Originally posted by CorderaMitchellBecause wolverine can't go after him at all. . .
stalemate him by staying on a wall,
Originally posted by CorderaMitchellWhich he has yet to do as well . . . interesting isn't it?
or discarding him, like superman would do to the hulk.
Originally posted by Creshosk
No seriously. . people say I repeat myself, why do you think that is?Is it because I'm attacking the same damn points, with the same damn counterpoints?
AGIAN, what does it matter if he's a one trick pony?
He's not as cool as spiderman?
Spiderman wins because he's cooler?
No seriously, what's the point of pointing out that he's inconsistant or a one trick pony? What difference does it make?
You'd have to in capacitate his arms. . . Which is something that you're just giving to him. . . He's clawed out before TWICE when spiderman webbed him up, and spiderman STARTED with the arms. . .
This to me looks like maybe he can't, because he hasn't despite trying.
Because I attack illogic. period.
If you didn't want to present it in such a way that I couldn't attack it you should have done it in such a way that it was not out in the open on a publicly accesible message board. . .
Or you just argue to argue against me, what size do you want that shirt.
The point is spiderman has more ways to win than wolverine, and outclasses him in every aspect. Batman hd options to win, wolveirne has one, why would peter go for it?
The fact is that the writers make it to suit their needs, and therefore its always pis/cis. Spidey benches 15tons, fact. Wolveirne can't be pinpointed on his healing, so it is used to extremes. Too bad wolverine supporters still don't see that.
Originally posted by Creshosk
So what's he going to do? Run?It's probably a smart idea to run from wolverine but seriously. . .
He's going to beat wolverine by running from him?
that takes us back to your take on his healing factor which is different than the way he's been portrayed multiple times in the comics.
It's like saying that Spiderman has a new power he didn't have, or doesn't have a power that he's always had. . .
Yup,. knew it. . you're giving spiderman an enviromental advantage to help him win. . .
Covered this, if you'll forgive the pun.
Because wolverine can't go after him at all. . .
Which he has yet to do as well . . . interesting isn't it?
Why would he run, he's outdistancing himself from the claws, I can't help it if you don't have normal reasoning.
It hasn't happened therefore it can't, so if I haven't been hit by a car, that means a car can't kill me, try again. The SAME OLD ARGUMENT.
Originally posted by CorderaMitchellYes because I ignore every other post and ONLY respond to you because the world, nay the UNIVERSE revolves around you. Because I never respond to other people. . .
Or you just argue to argue against me, what size do you want that shirt.
Originally posted by CorderaMitchellHmm. . .covered this already. . .
The point is spiderman has more ways to win than wolverine,
Originally posted by CorderaMitchellExcept durability. . .
and outclasses him in every aspect.
Originally posted by CorderaMitchellGo for what?
Batman hd options to win, wolveirne has one, why would peter go for it?
Originally posted by CorderaMitchellAll literary works are pis/cis now?
The fact is that the writers make it to suit their needs, and therefore its always pis/cis.
Fan-****ing-tastic.
Originally posted by CorderaMitchellI thought that was dead lifting rather than benchin . . but yeah Spiderman's strength is listed at 15 tons.
Spidey benches 15tons, fact.
Originally posted by CorderaMitchellOnce again, what is the point of inconsistency other than to try and depower it to YOUR take on it rather than the bullet hole, claw in the neck, strong hit surviving character that he IS. . .
Wolveirne can't be pinpointed on his healing, so it is used to extremes. Too bad wolverine supporters still don't see that.
Seriously, if his healing factor was what you thought it was logically, he waould have killed himself the FIRST time he popped his claws by shredding all of the bloodvessila/arteries in his arms, and bled to death . . . Instead of being able to runthrough bullet hail storms. . . you'd HAVE to heal pretty damned fast to not die from being turned into swiss cheese . . .
Originally posted by CorderaMitchellGoing where?
Why would he run, he's outdistancing himself from the claws, I can't help it if you don't have normal reasoning.
Where would he go so that wolverine couldn't follow, even if at a slower pace?
Originally posted by CorderaMitchellNope, you're strawmanning my argument.
It hasn't happened therefore it can't,
You left out "despite trying".
Originally posted by CorderaMitchellNo, strawman argument, you left out despite trying, has anyone TRIED to run you down with a car?
so if I haven't been hit by a car, that means a car can't kill me, try again. The SAME OLD ARGUMENT.
Originally posted by Creshosk
Yes because I ignore every other post and ONLY respond to you because the world, nay the UNIVERSE revolves around you. Because I never respond to other people. . .Hmm. . .covered this already. . .
Except durability. . .
Go for what?
All literary works are pis/cis now?
Fan-****ing-tastic.
I thought that was dead lifting rather than benchin . . but yeah Spiderman's strength is listed at 15 tons.
Once again, what is the point of inconsistency other than to try and depower it to YOUR take on it rather than the bullet hole, claw in the neck, strong hit surviving character that he IS. . .
Seriously, if his healing factor was what you thought it was logically, he waould have killed himself the FIRST time he popped his claws by shredding all of the bloodvessila/arteries in his arms, and bled to death . . . Instead of being able to runthrough bullet hail storms. . . you'd HAVE to heal pretty damned fast to not die from being turned into swiss cheese . . .
blood clots work fast
if someone disagrees from you they're illogical?
All literary works dont' change characters to suit their needs, like spiderman, all characters don't survive bs like wolverine, notice I don't use Svsfl here, I know the difference, unlike people who don't seem to.
Batman or electra hit wolveirne he is hurt good, spiderman or namor do so, he doesn't flinch, you're using the best to suit your needs, which are things he can't be proven to do.....