Wolverine vs. Spider-Man

Started by CorderaMitchell1,019 pages

Originally posted by Creshosk
Going where?

Where would he go so that wolverine couldn't follow, even if at a slower pace?

Nope, you're strawmanning my argument.

You left out "despite trying".

No, strawman argument, you left out despite trying, has anyone TRIED to run you down with a car?

Where was he trying to discard him? Those fights were up close, adn funny how spiderman had wolveirne begging for his life in one when he himself was SEVERLY injured, but in another you use smiling, that doesn't mean no damage.

Think objectivly.

Dude he's outdistancing him to make his only chance of winning obsolete, his claws, which we know spiderman can avoid fine.

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
blood clots work fast
Not that fast, the entire damn arm's blood vessels have been shredded. . .

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
if someone disagrees from you they're illogical?
If someone is illogical, they're illogical.

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
All literary works dont' change characters to suit their needs,
Yes, yes they do. That's called character development.

DBZ is an ultimate example of "overcoming the obsticles by gaining just what they need."

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
like spiderman, all characters don't survive bs like wolverine, notice I don't use Svsfl here, I know the difference, unlike people who don't seem to.
You mean like that whole spiderclone fiasco?

I thank you for not going to extremes by bringing up something that was heavily plot influenced.

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
Batman or electra hit wolveirne he is hurt good,
Pain yes, Damage? Not really no. . .Except in Batman's case where it would probably be a poison which Wolverine does have problems with. . .

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
spiderman or namor do so, he doesn't flinch,
Namor is probably Wolverine's "firelord" I don't know I haven't seen it. . .

He sure as hell flinches when Spiderman hits him. He does go flying to. . . But it doesn't beat him.

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
you're using the best to suit your needs, which are things he can't be proven to do.....
Except for they're things he has done. . . You don't read Wolverine comics. That's not a question. It's an observation.

It is good to compare feats through past issues but that furhter my belief that Spider-man will win this....................

I know this was already brought up about 100 pages ago, but I feel that it needs to be seen again for all those people who believe that Spiderman's webbing will do absolutely nothing.

Spidey webs up Wolvie. Fact.
Unless Wolverine was sleeping, which I doubt, he CLEARLY was not fast enough/strong enough to escape the webbing as it occurred, since the length of time it took to web was probably around 5-7 seconds long. So it seems that even given this window of opportunity, Wolvie still couldn't move fast enough to break free.

In this picture, Wolvie is completely incapacitated. He pretty much says so himself.

Originally posted by Creshosk
Not that fast, the entire damn arm's blood vessels have been shredded. . .

If someone is illogical, they're illogical.

Yes, yes they do. That's called character development.

DBZ is an ultimate example of "overcoming the obsticles by gaining just what they need."

You mean like that whole spiderclone fiasco?

I thank you for not going to extremes by bringing up something that was heavily plot influenced.

Pain yes, Damage? Not really no. . .Except in Batman's case where it would probably be a poison which Wolverine does have problems with. . .

Namor is probably Wolverine's "firelord" I don't know I haven't seen it. . .

He sure as hell flinches when Spiderman hits him. He does go flying to. . . But it doesn't beat him.

Except for they're things he has done. . . You don't read Wolverine comics. That's not a question. It's an observation.

New x men, ultimate, so what.

There's a difference between an upgrade, and suiting ones needs for 1 work. Character development. Spiderman lifts 15 tons, its fact, its noted, it can't be proven against. Unlike Namor not hurting wolverine, but dd could.

Illogical by your means, sounds conceited, is that why you ignore who?-kid and straw, I thought you were ignoring me too? oh well

Damage yes, pain in the head by concussive forces is small due to nerve endings. This is a fact, everytime I bring it up, someone doesn't understand, and cries its OPINIONATED, thats their ignorance.

How many times is wolverine seeing this to you?

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
Where was he trying to discard him?
He was trying to get wolverine to stay down. . . I guess when Spiderman gets swept up in the moment he goes in hand to hand. . . Because that's why he did each time he did go h2h with him.

Anger mostly. . . Fear as well. . .

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
Those fights were up close, adn funny how spiderman had wolveirne begging for his life
Wolverine NEVER begged for his life.

Wolverine was smiling in one. "Come to papa" in another. "I know I deserve this but this kinda hurts"

Nope, nothing other than baised eyes would see begging for life with those. . .

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
Think objectivly.
I am, problem is you're not.

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
Dude he's outdistancing him to make his only chance of winning obsolete, his claws, which we know spiderman can avoid fine.
Until he tires or makes a mistake.

So what's he going to do when he runs? Oh sorry, "outdistences"?

Originally posted by Metalmanx
I know this was already brought up about 100 pages ago, but I feel that it needs to be seen again for all those people who believe that Spiderman's webbing will do absolutely nothing.

Spidey webs up Wolvie. Fact.
Unless Wolverine was sleeping, which I doubt, he CLEARLY was not fast enough/strong enough to escape the webbing as it occurred, since the length of time it took to web was probably around 5-7 seconds long. So it seems that even given this window of opportunity, Wolvie still couldn't move fast enough to break free.

In this picture, Wolvie is completely incapacitated. He pretty much says so himself.

He then got himself free after that. . Talk about baised scans. . .

Wolverine has done many things, but he can't be explained why, its just "he did it". Not a good source, which is why the examples are piss poor, no different than the batman argument.

Hey Metalmanx thanks for helping to confirm my belief that webbing can be used so wolvie cant cut it

Originally posted by Creshosk
He then got himself free after that. . Talk about baised scans. . .

How though? He doesn't have the strength sufficient to do so, its a minor SvsFL, which is why logic is used to discern that.

Go to superman vs iceman, the best ones there use logic.

Originally posted by Creshosk
He then got himself free after that. . Talk about baised scans. . .

After how long? If that was a fight how many hits could spidey have got in before then?

Originally posted by Creshosk
He was trying to get wolverine to stay down. . . I guess when Spiderman gets swept up in the moment he goes in hand to hand. . . Because that's why he did each time he did go h2h with him.

Anger mostly. . . Fear as well. . .

Wolverine NEVER begged for his life.

Wolverine was smiling in one. "Come to papa" in another. "I know I deserve this but this kinda hurts"

Nope, nothing other than baised eyes would see begging for life with those. . .

I am, problem is you're not.

Until he tires or makes a mistake.

So what's he going to do when he runs? Oh sorry, "outdistences"?


Which fight are you talking about.

Thinking objectivley, do you ever. All you do is cry"it happened here"

so again I ask you, hwo can he break the webbing, without sufficient strength to do so, without using claws, your reasoning needs an update.

Wolveirne supporters all do this.

He was hit by hulk, he beat 100 ninjas, he survived a nuke, too bad you can't explain it.

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
New x men, ultimate, so what.

There's a difference between an upgrade, and suiting ones needs for 1 work. Character development. Spiderman lifts 15 tons, its fact, its noted, it can't be proven against. Unlike Namor not hurting wolverine, but dd could.

My turn to bring up Firelord?

No seriously, you don't see how "character development" is coming oup with something to give upgrades?

How did Spiderman get the 15b ton strength?

Plot device in the form of the woman that gave it to him along with the organic webbing and "talk with bugs ability"

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
Illogical by your means,
Illogical by the rules of logic.

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
is that why you ignore who?-kid and straw, I thought you were ignoring me too? oh well
I ignore Who-kid and Steraw because they completely ignore me.

You are a friend so I'm willing to infinite loop with you.

Straw was a broken record. Who kid. . . yeah but to a lesser degree.
Whobedamandog was to me like Merc was to you. Just attacking to rile up.

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
Damage yes, pain in the head by concussive forces is small due to nerve endings. This is a fact, everytime I bring it up, someone doesn't understand, and cries its OPINIONATED, thats their ignorance.
Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
Sounds concieted.

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
How many times is wolverine seeing this to you?
Van't put a number on it beacuse it depends way too heavily on environmental which would be a different number for each environment.

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
Wolverine has done many things, but he can't be explained why, its just "he did it". Not a good source, which is why the examples are piss poor, no different than the batman argument.

"No explination means it didn't happen." Is piss poor logic.

Really? Where's wolverine upgrades? He is still a peak human, but does feats he shouldn't. Spiderman is LISTED as that, thats the difference.

Age, experience, he gets stronger, like colossus and others.

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
How though? He doesn't have the strength sufficient to do so, its a minor SvsFL, which is why logic is used to discern that.

Go to superman vs iceman, the best ones there use logic.

With careful use of the claws.

Originally posted by willRules
After how long? If that was a fight how many hits could spidey have got in before then?
As soon as he wanted to. Doesn't matter, Spiderman punching him does nothing to him.

Originally posted by Creshosk
"No explination means it didn't happen." Is piss poor logic.

Nope, it means it isn't likely to IN AN HYPOTHETICAL MATCH!! We aren't rewriting a comic, thats why you are seeing it this way.

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
Really? Where's wolverine upgrades? He is still a peak human, but does feats he shouldn't. Spiderman is LISTED as that, thats the difference.

Age, experience, he gets stronger, like colossus and others.

You answered your own damn question.

Originally posted by Creshosk
With careful use of the claws.

As soon as he wanted to. Doesn't matter, Spiderman punching him does nothing to him.

But daredevils did, and Namor's didn't? Nothing, I think not, those hits do plenty of damage, add in velocity, = brain bruise.

No he still can't, more and more webbing, either way its still a defeat.

Originally posted by Creshosk
You answered your own damn question.

Nope, I didn't where did wolverine get listed off to do the things he does, but its nowhere to be found in his abilities. its a cash gimmick. 😉