Wolverine vs. Spider-Man

Started by CorderaMitchell1,019 pages

He could web him just fine.

He could discard him easily.

Organ ripping, smothering, drowning, the only true circumstanial one would be electrocution.

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
He could web him just fine.
He hasn't before. Wolverine clawed his way free.

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
He could discard him easily.
Wolverine could dodge Spiderman's attacks, unless he got the adreniline boost in which case fight or flight probably kicks in.

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
Organ ripping,
requires getting too close. Wolverine might be able to dodge. But he'd be within claw reach. . .

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
smothering,
With webbing? Wolverine could cut himself free before that.

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
drowning, the only true circumstanial one would be electrocution.
Drowning requires water, and holding wolverine down. Since wolverine can cut himself free it'd have to be spidermsn holding him down. Which creates the problem of coming too close.

Wolverine can't slice the webbing if his claws aren't able to be exploited, right?

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
Wolverine can't slice the webbing if his claws aren't able to be exploited, right?
Circumstantial. Both times Wolverine has been webbed up he cut himself free.

He can't cut without his claws. Explain this to me.

Of course he would get free. NOone wants to see him trapped,no more than they want to see a gutted spiderman.

Originally posted by Creshosk
Circumstantial. Both times Wolverine has been webbed up he cut himself free.

He cut himself free from this one? The one where he just MAGICALLY escapes the webbing without his claws?

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
He can't cut without his claws. Explain this to me.
We've been over this. Explain why he wouldn't have his claws?

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
Of course he would get free. NOone wants to see him trapped,no more than they want to see a gutted spiderman.
And yet they showed him trapped, before he cut himself free.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
He cut himself free from this one? The one where he just MAGICALLY escapes the webbing without his claws?

2+X=4

Where X is

"HE CUT HIMSELF FREE!"

Yes, he cut himself in the process.

I don't care if you can't grasp the concept, doesn't mean it didn't happen.

If you're going to keep bringing that up, trhen you have to accept what comes with that. He cut himself free. Going to call it crap writing? then you're going to be attacking the fact that he was webbed up, because it was the same writer that webbed him up AND cut him free.

Where would he be able to use his claws in that pic though, explain.

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
Where would he be able to use his claws in that pic though, explain.
As soon as his claws come out the cut the webbing that holds his hands to his head. then he's able to wogggle his wrists and cut them away from his head. . .and slowly he cuts himself free. . .

It's really not that hard to understand.

See but spiderman would have to LET him do that, he cant make the strength to use the claws until the webbing inspires, incapacitated. A defeat.

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
See but spiderman would have to LET him do that, he cant make the strength to use the claws until the webbing inspires, incapacitated. A defeat.
How would spiderman stop him?

He's not permenantly incapacitated, it's not a win here. . .

Wolverine cuts himself free. Unless spiderman can get to wolverine through his own webbing.

Originally posted by Creshosk
How would spiderman stop him?

He's not permenantly incapacitated, it's not a win here. . .

Wolverine cuts himself free. Unless spiderman can get to wolverine through his own webbing.

He's already stopped, its never permenant, spiderman webs up baddies all the time and its a defeat.

Just like IF wolverine would get ko'ed by someone. He may get back faster, but everyone could recover, so it doesn't make it NOT a defeat.

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
He's already stopped, its never permenant, spiderman webs up baddies all the time and its a defeat.
Not in wolverine's case. Cause wolverine can get out where as most baddies can't. Spiderman webbs wolvie up and then leaves the battlefield. Wolverine wins.

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
Just like IF wolverine would get ko'ed by someone. He may get back faster, but everyone could recover, so it doesn't make it NOT a defeat.
Knock out is different that a temporary incapacitation.

Wolverine can get out before the webbing disolves. Holding someone temporarily is not a win.

He can't get out till it expires. spiderman could web him forever, and have insects chew him.

A knockout is temporary though, its incapacitation.

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
He can't get out till it expires.
He has twice before.

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
spiderman could web him forever,
No, he couldn't.

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
and have insects chew him.
Which won't do anything. . . particularly f THEY get caught in the web. . bugs do that.

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
A knockout is temporary though, its incapacitation.
It's not the same thing no matter how much you want it to be.

You can for example web up a telepath. . . guess what though?

How can he logically get out, and spiderman can web him over and over, whats to stop him.

Wolverine being webbed up is like the ten count in a boxing match, he can't continue with or without his own will.

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
How can he logically get out,
With his claws. . . I've explained this.

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
and spiderman can web him over and over, whats to stop him.
You'd eventually be creating a dome over the hardened webbing. What's to stop wolverine from going in a different direction to emerge from the cacoon?

Iceman can keep creating Walls of ice around the hulk, but the hulk can keep smashing free.

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
Wolverine being webbed up is like the ten count in a boxing match,
No it's not, that's just your opinion.

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
he can't continue with or without his own will.
Which is why he has twice, right?

You're giving my "when" and not why.

Wolverine isn't physically capable to break the webbing if his claws are in a position for his disadvantage.

Explain to me how he could "break the webbing" Other than that, its a defeat.

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
You're giving my "when" and not why.
"With his claws" is a when and not why? well technically its a how, rather than why either. . but "with his claws" is not a "when"

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
Wolverine isn't physically capable to break the webbing if his claws are in a position for his disadvantage.
Circumstantial, you'd have to get them into that position first. . and if they aren't then he cuts himself free as he has done twice before.

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
Explain to me how he could "break the webbing" Other than that, its a defeat.
Well obviously the edge of his claws exerts a greater force than the webbing can hold. in essence his claws break the webbing rather easily.

No you saying, he did before, i want to know how.

I agree the claws can break the webbing, just not the rest of him.