Originally posted by CreshoskI like the fact that its a plot device, and that I'm trying to get you to see what i mean, because spiderman has a better list than wolverine.
That's funny, I thiought his dodging was reflexsive . . guess not huh?why wouldn't they? Hulk holds back.
You mean like when spiderman beat te hulk with a cement truck? 😆
Hulk takes heavier hits from the other bricks he fights, yet spiderman fells him with a cement truck . . .
This is why 'everything that happened... happened" isn't a good argument. But when its with wolverine you change your tune, you did on 3 trheads now...
"writers don't matter"
"Pis isn't based on consistency"
blah, hypocrite. 😮💨
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Well thank you for saying that, becuase1 he sent the hulk flying
2, hulk doesn't send others flying.
Thanks for proving pis....
100+ ton punches, did he ROLL out of them jinzin?
lol, I swear, this is worse than you saying batman could take punches from an angry supes.
he sent hulk flying ONCE.. WHILE IN WATER.. the majority overwhelmes the min--- oh yeah you don't care for feats of consistency.. my mistake...
wolverine can TAKE class 100 punches.. he's been doing it since his first appearance remember?
as for thebatman comment well I'd retaliate but no amount of legitimate proof in the world can effect the "C" masta.
Originally posted by Tha C-MasterSo Hulk is a big pile of walking PIS?
Well thank you for saying that, becuase1 he sent the hulk flying
2, hulk doesn't send others flying.
Thanks for proving pis....
100+ ton punches, did he ROLL out of them jinzin?
lol, I swear, this is worse than you saying batman could take punches from an angry supes.
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Wow, getting desperate to have Spidey win aren't you? Now not only is Wolverine walking PIS, but now so is the Hulk?
Who's next? Rhino? 😖hifty:
Originally posted by Tha C-MasterOf plot devices? obviously, since his spidersense is a plot device. 🙄
I like the fact that its a plot device, and that I'm trying to get you to see what i mean, because spiderman has a better list than wolverine.
Originally posted by Tha C-MasterAnd when we do explain it you ignore it, but you never explain why not.
This is why 'everything that happened... happened" isn't a good argument. But when its with wolverine you change your tune, you did on 3 trheads now...
Originally posted by Tha C-MasterThey don't. Obviously.
"writers don't matter"
Originally posted by Tha C-MasterNope, check the rules of the forum buddy boy.
"Pis isn't based on consistency"
Originally posted by Tha C-MasterYou're one to talk.
blah, hypocrite. 😮💨
"All he does is go off topic and argu semsantics."
*looks at post. Oh look at that another post dedicated to attacking me. 😆
and you have'nt even shown how I'm contradicting myself. 😄
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
I like the fact that its a plot device, and that I'm trying to get you to see what i mean, because spiderman has a better list than wolverine.This is why 'everything that happened... happened" isn't a good argument. But when its with wolverine you change your tune, you did on 3 trheads now...
"writers don't matter"
"Pis isn't based on consistency"
blah, hypocrite. 😮💨
better list?
wolverine:
downed lobo
stabbed thanos... TWICE
took on gladiator for 6 days.
almost killed savage hulk.
beat up on magneto.
stalemated venom
beat venom
almost killed beyonder....
hmmmm
Originally posted by jinzinOh better list of PIS. . I thought he was talking aobut better list of plot devices. . .
better list?wolverine:
downed lobo
stabbed thanos... TWICE
took on gladiator for 6 days.
almost killed savage hulk.
beat up on magneto.
stalemated venom
beat venom
almost killed beyonder....hmmmm
No Wolvie defitly has the better PIS. . . Spiderman has what? Punching Superman, Kicking thanos and beting up Firelord as his top feats?
Stab stab stab. 😆
Originally posted by jinzin
better list?wolverine:
downed lobo
stabbed thanos... TWICE
took on gladiator for 6 days.
almost killed savage hulk.
beat up on magneto.
stalemated venom
beat venom
almost killed beyonder....
stabbed silver surfer.
KOed herc.. (who humiliated firelord by the way)
beat over 2,000 ninjas.. when spidey and the rest of the new avengers minus wolverine nearly hadto resort to hiding behind iron man's shield against just a couple hundred of them...hmmmm
Originally posted by jinzinSPiderman kicked thanos, beat firelord, wolverine didn't beat up magneto, but spiderman took out xavier and smacked wolverine away, beat venom, AND carnage with silver surfer inside, whooped iron man, and downed titania out of non pis....
better list?wolverine:
downed lobo
stabbed thanos... TWICE
took on gladiator for 6 days.
almost killed savage hulk.
beat up on magneto.
stalemated venom
beat venom
almost killed beyonder....hmmmm
Normal spiderman too...
Originally posted by jinzinPIS is irrelevant to consistency, spiderman has taken blows too, whats your point?
he sent hulk flying ONCE.. WHILE IN WATER.. the majority overwhelmes the min--- oh yeah you don't care for feats of consistency.. my mistake...wolverine can TAKE class 100 punches.. he's been doing it since his first appearance remember?
as for thebatman comment well I'd retaliate but no amount of legitimate proof in the world can effect the "C" masta.
USe PIS? Regardless of consistency, do you need to be mocked by others again bro, I don't want that.
This question is for Creshosk and jinzin.
Where do either of you get the idea that Wolverine can negate the webbing in such a way that it becomes a non- factor?
With as much comic knowledge as you both have you should really know better.
As far as the fury files go I'd agree with Wolverine edging out Spidey overall because he's tougher and will survive wounds Spidey cannot.
Spider-man without his webbing couldn't beat Wolverine IMO after much thought. Not if we go with them at their best. At his best Wolverine displays hulk level durability.
Spider-man without his webbing is incomplete. Sorta like Wolvy without claws. What threat would he be? Not as great a threat as with them.
In this fight though the webbing can take away what Wolverine brings to the fight, his physical capabilities. He can cut some but not a large amount. The webbings a lot stickier and stronger than tar in some consistincies, and there's no cutting CLEAN through something like that.
Wolverine was shown ripping through the webbing once and then stabbing Spider-man. The odd thing is that if he could rip through many strands of webbing after being pinned in a prone position by the webbing, how is it that the two strands that flung him against the wall didn't break despite being placed under far greater stress?
Also the webbing on his back not only failed to hold him but also failed to hold the fabric on his outfit to the wall. It held long enough to throw him against the wall. Isn't that odd?
The webbing has been super strong since Spider-man was hanging with his amazing friends. A web ball pitched in Wolverines face would quickly cost him the fight.
He would be defenseless against another web assault, and complete immobilization.
It's the webbing that makes me think that non-powerhouse characters are not a threat to Spider-man outside of the comic reality where people act unrealistically more often than not and blatant inconsistency are the norm.
It would be surprising to me if you continued to consider the webbing a non-factor against any character that doesn't have a way to nullify it's use against them completely.
The webbing and Spider-powers give Spider-man the advantage against Wolverine.
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Originally posted by Tha C-MasterStab twice > Kick.
SPiderman kicked thanos,
Originally posted by Tha C-MasterThanos > Silversurfer > Hercules > Firelord
beat firelord,
Originally posted by Tha C-MasterYou're right he out and out killed him.
wolverine didn't beat up magneto,
Originally posted by Tha C-MasterGot that backwards their cheif. . ever even read the comic?
but spiderman took out xavier
Originally posted by Tha C-MasterLMFAO, you listed THAT as PIS?
and smacked wolverine away,
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If just smacking him away is pis, what would beating him be?
Wolverine wins,
My opponent acknowlegded my side your honor. 😉
Originally posted by Tha C-MasterSo did wolverine.
beat venom,
Originally posted by Tha C-MasterOh yeah that was non pis. 🙄
AND carnage with silver surfer inside, whooped iron man, and downed titania out of non pis....
*coughfanboycough*
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Normal spiderman too...
Fanboy. 😛
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
SPiderman kicked thanos, beat firelord, wolverine didn't beat up magneto, but spiderman took out xavier and smacked wolverine away, beat venom, AND carnage with silver surfer inside, whooped iron man, and downed titania out of non pis....Normal spiderman too...
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i suppose the "C" masta is he whom decides what is and isn't pis then? pffft..
kick<<<<stab.... simple as... getting kicked<<<<bleeding from chest andgrabbing it in pain.
herc>>>firelord
magneto seems to think otherwise... guess you missed that little encounter tween him and bone claw wolverine.. hell wolverine had him on the run in x-men 1 and had the advantage in x-men 25... had he not stopped his attack magneto would be dead and wolverine would have never had to be bone claw wolvie to begin with.
took out xavier? nah he surprised xavier who telepathically KOed him panals later.
smacked wolvie away.. and was then humiliated by him the next 4 times they met.
beat venom with help, weapons, plans... never without a plot device.
didn't beat cosmic carnage.. he outlasted him while surfer tried to reject it....
iron man 2021 different iron man....
titania.. would be impressive if she didn't lack the durability to take getting hit by a car... 😕
Originally posted by The MISTER
This question is for Creshosk and jinzin.Where do either of you get the idea that Wolverine can negate the webbing in such a way that it becomes a non- factor?
With as much comic knowledge as you both have you should really know better.
As far as the fury files go I'd agree with Wolverine edging out Spidey overall because he's tougher and will survive wounds Spidey cannot.
Spider-man without his webbing couldn't beat Wolverine IMO after much thought. Not if we go with them at their best. At his best Wolverine displays hulk level durability.
Spider-man without his webbing is incomplete. Sorta like Wolvy without claws. What threat would he be? Not as great a threat as with them.
In this fight though the webbing can take away what Wolverine brings to the fight, his physical capabilities. He can cut some but not a large amount. The webbings a lot stickier and stronger than tar in some consistincies, and there's no cutting CLEAN through something like that.
Wolverine was shown ripping through the webbing once and then stabbing Spider-man. The odd thing is that if he could rip through many strands of webbing after being pinned in a prone position by the webbing, how is it that the two strands that flung him against the wall didn't break despite being placed under far greater stress?
Also the webbing on his back not only failed to hold him but also failed to hold the fabric on his outfit to the wall. It held long enough to throw him against the wall. Isn't that odd?
The webbing has been super strong since Spider-man was hanging with his amazing friends. A web ball pitched in Wolverines face would quickly cost him the fight.
He would be defenseless against another web assault, and complete immobilization.
It's the webbing that makes me think that non-powerhouse characters are not a threat to Spider-man outside of the comic reality where people act unrealistically more often than not and blatant inconsistency are the norm.
It would be surprising to me if you continued to consider the webbing a non-factor against any character that doesn't have a way to nullify it's use against them completely.
The webbing and Spider-powers give Spider-man the advantage against Wolverine.
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sorry but I've already made this argument.. if you missed it the first 100 times I made it.. well I'm sorry..