Wolverine vs. Spider-Man

Originally posted by Creshosk
And again you can't counter the point so you resort to "outside measures". That you had complained about other people (Me) doing earlier. But hey if that's the way you want to play

Where did I ever say that he could peirce sound? 🙂 Oh right that's you exagerating my arguments AGAIN.

And I provdided a scan of why I thought that he could move faster than the people could "see", and several others scans. And even DarkCrawler I think it was pointed out real martial artists could move that fast, and how they had to slow the cameras down when taping Bruce Lee.

Yeah I did support him versus the Wrecker? So what? Wrecker was visably hurt during the fight by Wolverine's claws. And?

It's not like I've said that Wolverine could beat godzilla, or Carnage or Venom. Hell I even said Venomwwould beat Wolverine AND Sabertooth. . . yet you've brought up Wolverine vs Godzilla and Carnage against me. And you've mentioned threads that I didn'tr even participate in like that was my thoughts on the matter.

But hey whatever helps you win, be it discrediting your opponents by saying they made arguments they NEVER made, then its a viable tactic right?

Biased, wrecker rivals thor, so you use PIS that makes the match interesting, I.E a few scratches, to support your conclusion.

Poor, sloppy premise.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Lol, look at the evidence though, he didn't use all of his abilities.

He used a flick, a sling if you will. Wolverine went flying, but now he can't give him a concussion... because?

And simply knocking aperson away isn't a win, it's not a KO and it's not a concussion. So your point is rather moot.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
The cement didnt' crack, because?

Oh it's sooo important that the artist drew a tombstone in their OBVIOUSLY that is sooo important that the ENTIRE storyline is altered.

You're grasping at straws there C.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Spiderman's not holding back is as believable as batman's not killing.

Motive man think motive. Why would he be lying about that?

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Countered fine.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Biased, wrecker rivals thor, so you use PIS that makes the match interesting, I.E a few scratches, to support your conclusion.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Poor, sloppy premise.

hang on spider lied before that saying 1 of them was defiantly going to die tonight... its all just to build up the reader tension so that the reader thinks its a good fight rather then an attempt to draw out the storyline...

Originally posted by Creshosk
No you didn't. You didn't even touch my points. All you said was "spiderman's pretty fast, and then tried to call me biased with exagerations and your own bias. How is that even addressing what I said?

And again you try to insist I'm biased. 🙄

And you still haven't addressed my points from the post you responded to before this.

Score... 😎

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Straw pulling, and saying nooone answered your question, now calling everyone a hypocrite.

Score... 😎

And you still haven't addressed my points.

So you beleive things that they say to other characters despite there being no proof for the statements and proof AGAINST it being quite heavy, but you don't believe what they say to themselves?

Think about motive. why would they be saying that to which characters.

Why would he be lieing to himself?

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Why would Wolverine lie to him?

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the lieing to himself premise makes no sense in the first place. But there could always be a reason to lie to another character. PARTICULARLY if there is evidence against the chraracters claims.

Oh yeah, "spiderman moves pretty fast, you're biased" answered that question. 🙄

how quickly can wolverine heal from brain hermitages/trauma?

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Lol, look at the evidence though, he didn't use all of his abilities.

He used a flick, a sling if you will. Wolverine went flying, but now he can't give him a concussion... because?

The cement didnt' crack, because?

Spiderman's not holding back is as believable as batman's not killing.

since when does bating someone away equate to having the ability to give them a concussion?.. which has already been discussed over and over and over it's not even funny.

cement DID crack.. it shattered.. it didn't do it faster because wolverine's head only goes back so far and spiderman's fist was hitting an adamtnium skull not the cement.. wolverine was already braced against it... the force was excerted on the skull and the impact was considerably reduced by the time the effect reached the other side.. but hey.. don't believe me... keep on think spiderman can break admantium if that's what suits you.. 🙂

Originally posted by jinzin
since when does bating someone away equate to having the ability to give them a concussion?.. which has already been discussed over and over and over it's not even funny.

cement DID crack.. it shattered.. it didn't do it faster because wolverine's head only goes back so far and spiderman's fist was hitting an adamtnium skull not the cement.. wolverine was already braced against it... the force was excerted on the skull and the impact was considerably reduced by the time the effect reached the other side.. but hey.. don't believe me... keep on think spiderman can break admantium if that's what suits you.. 🙂

Originally posted by Hit_and_Miss
how quickly can wolverine heal from brain hermitages/trauma?

faster than he heals from mortal wounds... a person can recover from concussions in weeks to days to minutes to seconds... wolverine can recover from damage that NO ONE can recover from with ANY amount of time in seconds if that.. why couldn't he heal from a concussion?

Originally posted by jinzin
faster than he heals from mortal wounds... a person can recover from concussions in weeks to days to minutes to seconds... wolverine can recover from damage that NO ONE can recover from with ANY amount of time in seconds if that.. why couldn't he heal from a concussion?

Spiderman can do things those guys failed to do, including himself. 😖hifty:

Originally posted by Creshosk
Because it's spiderman giving it to him rather than collosus, hulk, thing, wrecker, wendigo, roughhouse caliban. . . . or Spiderman 😖hifty:

Spiderman can do things those guys failed to do, including himself. 😖hifty:

😂

quite true...

Originally posted by jinzin
since when does bating someone away equate to having the ability to give them a concussion?.. which has already been discussed over and over and over it's not even funny.

cement DID crack.. it shattered.. it didn't do it faster because wolverine's head only goes back so far and spiderman's fist was hitting an adamtnium skull not the cement.. wolverine was already braced against it... the force was excerted on the skull and the impact was considerably reduced by the time the effect reached the other side.. but hey.. don't believe me... keep on think spiderman can break admantium if that's what suits you.. 🙂

Has nothing to do with breaking adamantium, you guys need reading comprehension check, as well as a nice spellcheck. 😛

Originally posted by Creshosk
Yes you are. 😆

And you still haven't addressed my points.

Think about motive. why would they be saying that to which characters.

Why would he be lieing to himself?

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Why would Wolverine lie to him?

...

the lieing to himself premise makes no sense in the first place. But there could always be a reason to lie to another character. PARTICULARLY if there is evidence against the chraracters claims.

Oh yeah, "spiderman moves pretty fast, you're biased" answered that question. 🙄

Wolverine said elecktra was no match for him...

You have a propencity for exercies in futility... 😉

Sound familiar?

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Um a stronger metal doesn't absorb as much impact....

Has nothing to do with breaking adamantium,

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
you guys need reading comprehension check, as well as a nice spellcheck. 😛

And you still haven't answered why an artists depiction changes the events of the story.

I went over this with Metalman the other night.

The artist drew in a tombstone. Had he not what would you have complained about then? The ground?

It's just like complaingin about wolverine having eyeballs in that one scene with the punisher.

What does the tombstone being there have to do with the story?

"The artist drew in a tombstone therefore the whole scene is PIS!"

Sounds as desperate as

"The artist drew in eyeballs, there fore the whole scene is PIS!"

"The artist drew Wolverine an inch too tall, therefore the whole scene is PIS!"
"The color artist drew in the wrong color in this one panel the whole scene is PIS!"
"The color artist used the wrong shade of yellow for this panel, the whole scene is PIS!
The inker inked the line one micron too thick the whole scene is PIS!"

Yeah. . . all of those are logical. 🙄

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
No its the fact that you are going off of self claims when it suits you, so I'm doing it to show you what its like, you can't disprove me because its what you're doing.

Wolverine said elecktra was no match for him...

You have a propencity for exercies in futility... 😉

Sound familiar?

It's sad that I had to point that out.

Characters have different motives for saying different things.

It's sad I had to point that out.

There is evidence that supports Spiderman's inner monologue. (Stronger characters than spiderman failed, so its beleiveable Spiderman couldn't do what stronger characters could.)

There is evidence AGAINST What wolverine told Spiderman.
There is evidence AGAINST What wolverine told Elektra.

And yet you side with the dialouge (and against the monologue) and with the side with evidence against it.)

Yeah that's logical. . . 🙄

Originally posted by Creshosk
Wolverine's lie does. You beleive Wolverine. . .

And you still haven't answered why an artists depiction changes the events of the story.

I went over this with Metalman the other night.

The artist drew in a tombstone. Had he not what would you have complained about then? The ground?

It's just like complaingin about wolverine having eyeballs in that one scene with the punisher.

What does the tombstone being there have to do with the story?

"The artist drew in a tombstone therefore the whole scene is PIS!"

Sounds as desperate as

"The artist drew in eyeballs, there fore the whole scene is PIS!"

"The artist drew Wolverine an inch too tall, therefore the whole scene is PIS!"
"The color artist drew in the wrong color in this one panel the whole scene is PIS!"
"The color artist used the wrong shade of yellow for this panel, the whole scene is PIS!
The inker inked the line one micron too thick the whole scene is PIS!"

Yeah. . . all of those are logical. 🙄

Um..no, so when hulk doesn't knock wolverine into the next state its fine because....

I thought not, its a plot device.

W00t heres your hyper-bowler pro medal!!!

the problem is the caption shows spider punching him in the face saying "I'm giving him all I've got" hes not kicking him.. throwing stuff at him or webbing him up... so I't comes across as wolverine doesn't even get pushed back by spiders punches...

Originally posted by Creshosk
There is a difference between an internal monlogue and a dialouge with another character.

It's sad that I had to point that out.

Characters have different motives for saying different things.

It's sad I had to point that out.

There is evidence that supports Spiderman's inner monologue. (Stronger characters than spiderman failed, so its beleiveable Spiderman couldn't do what stronger characters could.)

There is evidence AGAINST What wolverine told Spiderman.
There is evidence AGAINST What wolverine told Elektra.

And yet you side with the dialouge (and against the monologue) and with the side with evidence against it.)

Yeah that's logical. . . 🙄

Biased...

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
You said that spiderman fights his hardest against him, when there is evidence that he never does, thousands of times more evidence, so you choose that one that suits you.

Biased...

Oh yeah the artist drew in a tombstone. 🙄

No, seriously. 🙂 Where is it?