Metalmanx
Illuminati Founder
Originally posted by Creshosk
Metal's premise was that Spiderman could just slap wolverine away all day with any attack wolverine threw.Wolverine's claws reach out further than his arm. improving his reach to greater than a simple arm raach. in melee combat Wolverine has a further reach.
Now's who's the one stretching, Cresh?
Yes, Wolverine's reach would be further than Spiderman's reach. But you and I must be seeing this playing out in two different ways.
Wolverine slashes, Spiderman moves his hand/arm out of the way. Then smacks him with either the same hand or the other hand at the end of Wolvie's slash. Since, you know, Spidey is faster and all, this is entirely within his power to do this.
Again, it's not a victory. You won't here me argue that. But I just don't see how anyone of Spidey's caliber would be bested by someone slower than him, weaker than him, not as smart as him, etc (save for the durability due to healing factor).
brainchild81 threw out a good scenario, one that I'm sure has been used before. Dodge Wolverine, web him up, maybe hit him a few times (if Spidey wants), web him again, and then web him face, suffocating him. Now, just in case Wolvie SOMEHOW breaks through the webbing that's held much stronger than him, Spidey can stand there and hold Wolvie's arms so he can't get to his mouth. You can't argue that Spiderman could effortlessly (yes, I said effortlessly) hold Wolverine's hands say...down to his side so he couldn't use them. Spidey could hold his hands at the wrists, so as to not let Wolverine get a chance to slice. Not that he really would, what with the webbing in place, and Spidey holding him there. Now, with Wolvie unable to move at all, and choking the death, what's the problem here?
I have given Spidey no added advantages. I haven't taken away from Wolverine at all. Not once did I mention the word "wall" or some other crazy "plot device". This is Spiderman under his own power, and Wolverine under his own power. With no PIS, CIS, plot devices in the way.