I like how Cresh and Jin said we were stretching and going out of our way to figure out a way for Spiderman to win.
Now it seems that they're going out of their way to find reasons for why a very logical scenario won't work because Wolverine loses.
I didn't give either of them any advantages, nor dod I take away anything from either of them as well.
Spidey is plenty fast enough to slip through Wolverine's attacks. When the hell did Wolverine become Quicksilver? Spidey is still leagues away from him in terms of speed. He dodges lasers, bullets, lasers and bullets, Doc Ock's four tentacles (yes, I know he gets hit at times, but for the most part he dodges), Scorpion, the Lizard, Venom (even without his spider sense, he's still fast enough to dodge many attacks, though he does get roughed up from Venom), etc. And sometimes he'll do this in the air. I don't know why this is so hard to understand.
Spiderman is fast enough to dodge Wolverine's attacks, and then grab his wrists. And once he has his wrists, Wolverine CANNOT break free, he just isn't strong enough. Spidey could literally hold his hands/arms in place and not let them move at all. Wolverine's mobility would be cut down 80% from this. And then all Wolvie has are kicks. Spidey can either dodge these or take them, since a kick from Wolverine to any non sensitive area (testicles, nose, etc.) can be shrugged off.
"No way. Spidey can't shrug off a Wolverine kick". Yea, Spidey can't take a Wolverine kick. Not the same guy who's been slapped around by Hulk, Rhino, Venom, Carnage, Doc Ock, Green Goblin, Sandman, etc. Wolverine's peak human strength kicks are just going to be the straw that broke the camel's back I guess.
Now, I'd like to hear a good scenario countering this. If that's okay. Take your time.
Originally posted by Metalmanx
I like how Cresh and Jin said we were stretching and going out of our way to figure out a way for Spiderman to win.Now it seems that they're going out of their way to find reasons for why a very logical scenario won't work because Wolverine loses.
I didn't give either of them any advantages, nor dod I take away anything from either of them as well.
Spidey is plenty fast enough to slip through Wolverine's attacks. When the hell did Wolverine become Quicksilver? Spidey is still leagues away from him in terms of speed. He dodges lasers, bullets, lasers and bullets, Doc Ock's four tentacles (yes, I know he gets hit at times, but for the most part he dodges), Scorpion, the Lizard, Venom (even without his spider sense, he's still fast enough to dodge many attacks, though he does get roughed up from Venom), etc. And sometimes he'll do this in the air. I don't know why this is so hard to understand.
Spiderman is fast enough to dodge Wolverine's attacks, and then grab his wrists. And once he has his wrists, Wolverine CANNOT break free, he just isn't strong enough. Spidey could literally hold his hands/arms in place and not let them move at all. Wolverine's mobility would be cut down 80% from this. And then all Wolvie has are kicks. Spidey can either dodge these or take them, since a kick from Wolverine to any non sensitive area (testicles, nose, etc.) can be shrugged off.
"No way. Spidey can't shrug off a Wolverine kick". Yea, Spidey can't take a Wolverine kick. Not the same guy who's been slapped around by Hulk, Rhino, Venom, Carnage, Doc Ock, Green Goblin, Sandman, etc. Wolverine's peak human strength kicks are just going to be the straw that broke the camel's back I guess.
Now, I'd like to hear a good scenario countering this. If that's okay. Take your time.
I agree entirely. Plus why can't he just web his wrists to his sides? Spidey's easily fast enough to do so, plus Logan doesn't have the strength to break free............
Web his wrists to his sides.. above his head....etc, are you guys crazy? He's not gonna stand there posing in his most vulnerable positions 😂
And about his feet and his arms/head being webbed at the same time WHILE he's dodging Wolverine... riiight. I don't think the webbing travels light speed for one, so Wolverine can dodge at least one if not both of those as they're being squirted towards him. Secondly, last time I checked Wolverine had eyes, so he can see where Spiderman is going to aim and simply jump or change position slightly to either avoid the web or only have part of it hit him.
Originally posted by MetalmanxThe problem is the word "logical" so far they haven't been.
I like how Cresh and Jin said we were stretching and going out of our way to figure out a way for Spiderman to win.Now it seems that they're going out of their way to find reasons for why a very logical scenario won't work because Wolverine loses.[/]b
Originally posted by MetalmanxThe problem is is that Wolverine's not just going to be standing there with his wrists out waiting to be grabbed, he's going to be attacking which means movement so Spiderman might have to get into an ackward position to grab the wrists. and grabbing only one wrist at a time might not work out too well.
[B]I didn't give either of them any advantages, nor dod I take away anything from either of them as well.Spidey is plenty fast enough to slip through Wolverine's attacks. When the hell did Wolverine become Quicksilver? Spidey is still leagues away from him in terms of speed. He dodges lasers, bullets, lasers and bullets, Doc Ock's four tentacles (yes, I know he gets hit at times, but for the most part he dodges), Scorpion, the Lizard, Venom (even without his spider sense, he's still fast enough to dodge many attacks, though he does get roughed up from Venom), etc. And sometimes he'll do this in the air. I don't know why this is so hard to understand./quote] Name dropping much?
[QUOTE=5398667]Originally posted by Metalmanx
Spiderman is fast enough to dodge Wolverine's attacks, and then grab his wrists.
Originally posted by MetalmanxYou automatically assume that Spiderman is just going to get the wrsits, yes he has speed nobody is doubting that, but you still haven't explained how he suddenly has a hold of both wrists.
And once he has his wrists, Wolverine CANNOT break free, he just isn't strong enough. Spidey could literally hold his hands/arms in place and not let them move at all. Wolverine's mobility would be cut down 80% from this. And then all Wolvie has are kicks. Spidey can either dodge these or take them, since a kick from Wolverine to any non sensitive area (testicles, nose, etc.) can be shrugged off."No way. Spidey can't shrug off a Wolverine kick". Yea, Spidey can't take a Wolverine kick. Not the same guy who's been slapped around by Hulk, Rhino, Venom, Carnage, Doc Ock, Green Goblin, Sandman, etc. Wolverine's peak human strength kicks are just going to be the straw that broke the camel's back I guess.
Now, I'd like to hear a good scenario countering this. If that's okay. Take your time.
If spiderman doesn't grab the wrist joint itself Wolverine can still rotate his wirst to cut Spiderman's arm.
And who has he thought to do this tactic on before?
Oh thats right, no one. 🙄
Originally posted by Metalmanx
Spidey is plenty fast enough to slip through Wolverine's attacks. When the hell did Wolverine become Quicksilver? Spidey is still leagues away from him in terms of speed. He dodges lasers, bullets, lasers and bullets, Doc Ock's four tentacles (yes, I know he gets hit at times, but for the most part he dodges), Scorpion, the Lizard, Venom (even without his spider sense, he's still fast enough to dodge many attacks, though he does get roughed up from Venom), etc. And sometimes he'll do this in the air.
I don't know why this is so hard to understand.
Spiderman is fast enough to dodge Wolverine's attacks, and then grab his wrists. And once he has his wrists, Wolverine CANNOT break free, he just isn't strong enough. Spidey could literally hold his hands/arms in place and not let them move at all.
Good post Metalmanx. Not as good as mine, mind you, but you're learning 😉
Originally posted by CreshoskSo if he hasn't done it before, he can't do it? pffffffffffft(yeah I'm using that now). Well I'd never seen him catch a bullet before, but he's done it recently. This is Creshtalk for "This scenario's air tight and my best bet is just to imply that Spidey won't do it".😆 Spidey's all about improvising.
The problem is the word "logical" so far they haven't been.The problem is is that Wolverine's not just going to be standing there with his wrists out waiting to be grabbed, he's going to be attacking which means movement so Spiderman might have to get into an ackward position to grab the wrists. and grabbing only one wrist at a time might not work out too well.
You automatically assume that Spiderman is just going to get the wrsits, yes he has speed nobody is doubting that, but you still haven't explained how he suddenly has a hold of both wrists.If spiderman doesn't grab the wrist joint itself Wolverine can still rotate his wirst to cut Spiderman's arm.
And who has he thought to do this tactic on before?
Oh thats right, no one. 🙄
Originally posted by Creshosk
The problem is the word "logical" so far they haven't been.The problem is is that Wolverine's not just going to be standing there with his wrists out waiting to be grabbed, he's going to be attacking which means movement so Spiderman might have to get into an ackward position to grab the wrists. and grabbing only one wrist at a time might not work out too well.
You automatically assume that Spiderman is just going to get the wrsits, yes he has speed nobody is doubting that, but you still haven't explained how he suddenly has a hold of both wrists.
If spiderman doesn't grab the wrist joint itself Wolverine can still rotate his wirst to cut Spiderman's arm.
And who has he thought to do this tactic on before?
Oh thats right, no one. 🙄
...That's exactly why I said he would grab the WRISTS, so Wolvie couldn't rotate them.
I never said anything about Wolverine standing still. In fact, I was referring to when Wolverine is attacking him. I hope he is attacking actually. You act like Spiderman has never done this before. He can be attacked, dodge a blow, and web the guy up so his arms are pinned to his sides. All he needs to do is get a hand first with webbing, then use his super human strength to pin it against his body, then continue the webbing process. He can do all of this while dodging Wolverine, as he's shown to do many times before with EVEN FASTER opponents. Hell, Spidey's been able to web all four of Ock's tentacles together at times when they were attacking him.
Analogy time. Imagine a hog-tying contest. Well, a cow-tying contest. Whatever. You know what I'm saying. Anyway, those cowboys first loop the rope around one leg, pull it closer to the other ones, and continue this process until all four legs are pulled together in the same loop.
Exact same situation with the webbing.
Now, I wouldn't even be stating all this if Wolverine were anywhere near the strength needed to break out, but he can't. He can't even break out of Spidey's grasp.
About the grabbing his wrists thing. Why is this so hard for you to understand, Cresh? Wolverine slashes, misses, Spidey grabs his wrist, being fast enough to do so. Wolverine tries to break free with his other hand, and gets that wrist grabbed, too. What's the problem here? Spiey has both wrists at the joints. Wolverine cannot get out.
Damn. I need to put this much effort into my essays for classes.
Originally posted by wolverine8888How did Hulk grab him & how did he get out? I've a feeling those methods won't apply here.
lol whats he gunan do if the dude throwing fist at him move a good deal faster then bullets? with perfect aim?. also what will he do if he grab wolverine? wolverine had hulk grapp him and easiliy got out u dont think he could easiliy do the same to spiderman?