Originally posted by jinzin
face it you were caught in a dilemma... you want to use comics and what happens in them to prove a point... but when something happens in them that you don't like you disregard it... it's a subjective argument and thus loses validity...
Gee whiz. I guess you're right. I seem to be the only rational person on these boards claiming that Spider-Man would win. Heck, I'm in the minority based just on the poll at the top; a poll decided by people who read and are fans of comics. I guess that I, like all holders of the minority opinion, should read as many comic books as closely as you do, Jin. Then we wouldn't be caught in such a 'dilemma'.
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Originally posted by jinzinSomething we agree on. Spidey doesn't need upgrades honestly. Save that s**t for lames like Aquaman. I want the webshooters back. I pray they don't make Spidey too powerful. I like him as an underdog.
so have a lot of other heroes... I'm just not sure if raising character's power levels is the best way to go.. we've seen in dbz how that kinda runs headon into plot holes like crazy...
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
It doesn't abide by the rules of the forum, if the writers want to satisfy their fans then it WILL happen again and again, and go look at wolverine vs iceman and see the reason the antiwolverine sentiment is "quite high"
you're strawmanning again.... this isn't about iceman vs. wolverine...
I already know why so many around here hate him... but the fact remains wolverine's done it consistently to argue otherwise is to actually argue in favor of a pis event...
Originally posted by jinzinI'm not strawmaning why you aren't following the rules, and seriously go check wolverine vs iceman and see why he's a laughing stock...
you're strawmanning again.... this isn't about iceman vs. wolverine...I already know why so many around here hate him... but the fact remains wolverine's done it consistently to argue otherwise is to actually argue in favor of a pis event...
Apparently standing out in the cold is a greater feat than stopping all of one's molecular movement.
Originally posted by Melnorme
Gee whiz. I guess you're right. I seem to be the only rational person on these boards claiming that Spider-Man would win. Heck, I'm in the minority based just on the poll at the top; a poll decided by people who read and are fans of comics. I guess that I, like all holders of the minority opinion, should read as many comic books as closely as you do, Jin. Then we wouldn't be caught in such a 'dilemma'.😆
point proven...
strawman away.... 😱
okay you want to ignore your dilemma? fine, do as you wish.. but the fact is that a lot of votes were made on this poll by people like you who hadn't enough facts about the situation at hand to make a correct conclusion...
many of the voters in spiderman's favor simply said he was stronger and faster thus he wins...
wolverine's attributes negate those advantages yet they don't understand how that works...
now you're getting desperate, trying to use ad populem in your favor... we both know an appeal to the vote of popularity doesn't negotiate a correct assessment. the only way I figure is that you might be a utilitarian... but that doesn't make you right.. just morally obligated to vote spidey here....
on the other hand... using as populem well.... most of the world thought the world was flat pre-renaissance.. it must have been flat... ad populem doesn't dictate fact.. especially when so many people have n obvious bias for those whom they vote for on these boards...
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
I'm not strawmaning why you aren't following the rules, and seriously go check wolverine vs iceman and see why he's a laughing stock...Apparently standing out in the cold is a greater feat than stopping all of one's molecular movement.
how am I not following the rules?
Originally posted by Melnorme
Just as you think you never likened Roughhouse to being as strong as the Hulk. 😱
which I never did... even when i told you what wolverine placed him at, it was still below hulk level and even then I asserted how I thought he was reffering to hulk's base....
really sad... you keep grasping at those straws though.. maybe you'll get lucky...
Originally posted by jinzin
point proven...strawman away.... 😱
Originally posted by jinzin
now you're getting desperate, trying to use ad populem in your favor...
Originally posted by jinzin
we both know an appeal to the vote of popularity doesn't negotiate a correct assessment. the only way I figure is that you might be a utilitarian... but that doesn't make you right.. just morally obligated to vote spidey here....
Originally posted by jinzin
on the other hand... using as populem well.... most of the world thought the world was flat pre-renaissance.. it must have been flat... ad populem doesn't dictate fact.. especially when so many people have n obvious bias for those whom they vote for on these boards...
Originally posted by jinzin
which I never did... even when i told you what wolverine placed him at, it was still below hulk level and even then I asserted how I thought he was reffering to hulk's base....really sad... you keep grasping at those straws though.. maybe you'll get lucky...
Originally posted by Melnorme
Do you have any scans to show him doing things like throwing around main battle tanks or tearing locomotives in half?
not realy I dont have a scanner. I have some comic of him doign some crazy shit but all u can really go on is what little feats he has shown and what comcis and hand books have stated