Originally posted by capt it up
problem is spidermans not gunnaweb him. wolevrine could easiliy dodge webbing and easiliy cut it. also beign trained fighter and distance attacks as well as close up he knows how to dela with nets, or othe long range attacks. also even if wolverine got wbeeed a little he cut it. also wolverien can not ripp webing tru, but he can strang it enough to cut him self free as seen in marvel nights fight.
Um Yeah whatever seeing as Spiderman is FAR better at aiming and shooting his Webbing then Wolverine has ever shown at dodging it.
Wolverine isn't dodging the webbing and the minute he gets caught parker has only have to cover him.................................anyway the scenarios I just provided can be seen by scrolling up...................Spiderman's webs aren't just nets..........and if they were Wolverine would be fooked as no way he could cut himself loose faster then Spiderman can let it fly.
Originally posted by soleran30
Um Yeah whatever seeing as Spiderman is FAR better at aiming and shooting his Webbing then Wolverine has ever shown at dodging it.Wolverine isn't dodging the webbing and the minute he gets caught parker has only have to cover him.................................anyway the scenarios I just provided can be seen by scrolling up...................Spiderman's webs aren't just nets..........and if they were Wolverine would be fooked as no way he could cut himself loose faster then Spiderman can let it fly.
Well if Spider-man manages to web Wolverine (which I think we will) it will take some time for the webbing to build up to level where it will immobilize or hinder Wolverine's movement, he should have plenty of time to sever the line. There is also the fact that Spider-man often uses his webbing while he is in mid leap, which should allow Wolverine to take control of the web line until Spider-man lands again, if only briefly.
Originally posted by capt it up
actauily wolverine has shown to dodge things far faster then spidermans webbing. please tell us how fast the webbing moves last i check it a good deal slower then a bullet. also wolverine like stated befor could easiliy cut it.
Yup and if Wolverine is running forward and Spiderman webs his feet guess what.......................slowed down Wolverine.............If Wolverine is running forward and tries to cut the webs aimed at his feet his momentum will be stopped.
Point is Spiderman can keep his distance when someone isn't trying to play up Wolverine. Can Wolverine beat him in a H2H maybe he has claws that can end it quickly. That said Spiderman has more then enough ability to take out Wolveirne from a distance even within say 10 feet..................................Also Spidermans webbing covers alot more area then a bullet Wolverine won't get it all and it will catch on him and slow him down.
Originally posted by soleran30
Yup and if Wolverine is running forward and Spiderman webs his feet guess what.......................slowed down Wolverine.............If Wolverine is running forward and tries to cut the webs aimed at his feet his momentum will be stopped.Point is Spiderman can keep his distance when someone isn't trying to play up Wolverine. Can Wolverine beat him in a H2H maybe he has claws that can end it quickly. That said Spiderman has more then enough ability to take out Wolveirne from a distance even within say 10 feet..................................Also Spidermans webbing covers alot more area then a bullet Wolverine won't get it all and it will catch on him and slow him down.
Originally posted by jinzin
absolutely not, he's never proven to be times faster than any gifted street level with good training excluding some of his rogues, bricks, and the occasional asshat villian of the month....he's had his moments (secret wars) but those are few and far between and riddled with circumstance on most occasions...
any time a "somebody" decides to take it to spiderman his "I'm 40 times faster than people" B.S. is shown for what it really is and what he's already claimed it to be.... false bravado...
okay.. let ME paint the scenario... ARENA location = lack of sufficient "walls and such"
It doesn't matter how it happened in the comic as long as you get your way right?
okay then it's agreed.. wolverine is the only one to get a KO in the Wolvie vs. Spidey extravaganza and the only one to get a KILL as well....
doesn't matter how it happened...
cuase wolverine wins....what a stupid premise...
Spider-Man isn't times faster than a street leveler? You can take this as personal as you like, but it still doesn't erase the fact that Wolverine can't take Spider-Man by any way, shape, or form. Now, I understand your loyalty to Wolberine, but to be honest, it's not hard to see that he's outclassed here. Wolverine is a horridly overrated character. I'm guessing next you're going to say that what he did in Enemy of the State was within his means. He's never been proven times faster? Most street levelers and enhanced humans can't tag Quicksilver, or dodge bullets with ease. That evidence has already been proven. Maybe if you knew how to read this shouldn't be a problem.
Other then the fact that Spider-man has a massive strength edge he doesn't even come close to outclassing Wolverine... and even his strength edge means less then nothing against Wolverine's healing factor.
I doubt see how it is even up for debate that Wolverine is more then fast enough to tag Spider-man. It has been shown many, many times that Wolverine can tag Spider-man, and that others like Cap, Iron Fist, Shang Chi, DD and BP can as well. The problem with this thread (and the reason this thread as gone so long) is that Spider-man supporters are debating a Spider-man vs Wolverine fight, they are debating a Spider-man vs. Their own twisted idea of Wolverine who contradicts 90% of his showings an ignoring all his feats.
I read half these posts and it is blatantly obvious that the only experience with Wolverine many of the Spider-man supporters have with Wolverine is some Secret Wars scan of Spider-man embarrassing the X-men and if we're luck Punisher 17 (sub in Enemy of the State if you'd like) luckily for them they can get away with not being knowledgeable enough to post because this forum has taken it upon it's self to shit on Wolverine.
doh
Name one thing that Wolverine has done that Spider-Man can't do with ease.
Now, after name said thing, tell me it isn't plot induced stupidity to make his character to look better. If you can do that, then good for you. However, Spider-Man has punked all of the X-Men before, and snuck in a kiss with Jean Grey while going at it. He's also defeated enemies that make Wolverine look like a little punk. I honestly don't seeing him even beating Spider-Man without a case of bad writing to boot.
Originally posted by Creshosk
And he'd be able to pull off more force this way than just be punching the bastard? Doubtful.And he can do this and acheive more force than the blows he's taken in the past? Doubtful.
Well I think thats a huge assumption when we are referring to a character who can take hulk-like-punches and yet also be taken down swiftly from characters like sabretooth or Lady D
Originally posted by Creshosk
Sarcasm noted. Ineffective, but noted none the less.
😄 I aim to please 😄
Originally posted by Creshosk
Little chess excersize for you.set up a board with just a knight and a queen so that neither is going to take the other.
Take turns moving them to try and take the other one.
The queens power and versitility are pretty damned useless when they cannot be applied effectively huh?
Thats a funny thing cos I tried that, and guess what? The queen won every time 😄 😂
Originally posted by Creshosk
Well, let's bend the rules for spiderman! I don't care what they say.
No? I just love how Spiderman has whatever he needs. Whenever he needs it. But hey that's spiderman for you. . . oh wait, that's his fans for you.
Goodness forbid that we actually give spidey an environmental advantage!! What did we add to the battlefield now? Floor? atmosphere?
It appears the environment is only fair if they fight in wardrobe with logan's claws in front of Peter's face. 🙄
Originally posted by Thunderstrike
doh
Name one thing that Wolverine has done that Spider-Man can't do with ease.Now, after name said thing, tell me it isn't plot induced stupidity to make his character to look better. If you can do that, then good for you. However, Spider-Man has punked all of the X-Men before, and snuck in a kiss with Jean Grey while going at it. He's also defeated enemies that make Wolverine look like a little punk. I honestly don't seeing him even beating Spider-Man without a case of bad writing to boot.
Tell me how it's not PIS if Spider-man beat all of the X-Men before?
Cyclops: All he has to do is look at Spider-man and he's dead. Those beams go at like the speed of light, I doubt Spider-man could dodge that.
Jean Grey: Don't even get me started
Emma Frost: Mind-rape him
Iceman: Wouldn't even get close cause all he'd have to do is flash-freeze his ass and be done with it.
Nightcrawler: Could just teleport his head off...
Spider-man really shouldn't be beating the X-Men at all. That is MAJOR PIS.
Wait, Will. If Spider-man has seen Star Trek, this is easy.
http://wolvie.ytmnd.com
Originally posted by batdude123
Tell me how it's not PIS if Spider-man beat all of the X-Men before?Cyclops: All he has to do is look at Spider-man and he's dead. Those beams go at like the speed of light, I doubt Spider-man could dodge that.
Jean Grey: Don't even get me started
Emma Frost: Mind-rape him
Iceman: Wouldn't even get close cause all he'd have to do is flash-freeze his ass and be done with it.
Nightcrawler: Could just teleport his head off...
Spider-man really shouldn't be beating the X-Men at all. That is MAJOR PIS.
I thought spidey could dodge thing's at the speed of light.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Other then the fact that Spider-man has a massive strength edge he doesn't even come close to outclassing Wolverine... and even his strength edge means less then nothing against Wolverine's healing factor.I doubt see how it is even up for debate that Wolverine is more then fast enough to tag Spider-man. It has been shown many, many times that Wolverine can tag Spider-man, and that others like Cap, Iron Fist, Shang Chi, DD and BP can as well. The problem with this thread (and the reason this thread as gone so long) is that Spider-man supporters are debating a Spider-man vs Wolverine fight, they are debating a Spider-man vs. Their own twisted idea of Wolverine who contradicts 90% of his showings an ignoring all his feats.
I read half these posts and it is blatantly obvious that the only experience with Wolverine many of the Spider-man supporters have with Wolverine is some Secret Wars scan of Spider-man embarrassing the X-men and if we're luck Punisher 17 (sub in Enemy of the State if you'd like) luckily for them they can get away with not being knowledgeable enough to post because this forum has taken it upon it's self to shit on Wolverine.
Probably because he has more showings then superman(little humor there) and his feats go ALL over the board because of that🙂
Originally posted by steverules
I thought spidey could dodge thing's at the speed of light.
Actually, he makes the guy who's shooting him miss. He can't actually move at the speed of light. And there's a HUGE difference between trying to aim at somebody from a gun and just simply looking at him. All Cyclops would basically have to do is take off his visor and stare at Spider-man. He could do all the front and back flips that he likes but ain't dodging the blast. 😉
Originally posted by batdude123
Actually, he makes the guy who's shooting him miss. He can't actually move at the speed of light. And there's a HUGE difference between trying to aim at somebody from a gun and just simply looking at him. All Cyclops would basically have to do is take off his visor and stare at Spider-man. He could do all the front and back flips that he likes but ain't dodging the blast. 😉
✅ cykes wide-spread Long range capabilities are underestimated
Originally posted by batdude123
Actually, he makes the guy who's shooting him miss. He can't actually move at the speed of light. And there's a HUGE difference between trying to aim at somebody from a gun and just simply looking at him. All Cyclops would basically have to do is take off his visor and stare at Spider-man. He could do all the front and back flips that he likes but ain't dodging the blast. 😉
Well hey lets be realistic that writing of spiderman was as good as enemy of the state for wolverine..................both garbage when compared to the characters they faced🙂