Originally posted by Sixth_WingedSo the spidersense is not infalliable?
One even involved a sneak attack
Originally posted by Sixth_WingedYeah, Marvel's
I dunno, everything from you seem to come from one
Originally posted by Sixth_WingedSomebody needs to learn to follow trains of thought. Stamina isn't going to help out at the start, it's going to help after they have fouhgt for awhile.
Stamina? How the hell is that relevant to a speed of a person who just started a confrontation. Don't tell me they are exhausted from fighting for hours end when that happened.
Originally posted by Sixth_WingedYou're right, the claws will help with the being webbed up thing and the mutant regenerative factor will help out sith the whole getting knocked out thing.
And no, stamina won't prevent you from getting away from getting webbed up or knocked out by a person who outclass you in every physical category with the exception of that and durability.
Since that's exactly what they have done before.
Originally posted by willRulesNo the scan means nothing because Wolverine is faster than the kid.but this scan means nothing cos Logan's claws are faster than gunshots.............. 🙄
And as has beencovered beore dodging bullets comes from moving before the shot is even fired. Making the other person miss because you made sure the aim was bad by moving before hand.
Originally posted by Dizzle
B) I've said it before, I'll say it again. Stop falling back on Wolverine vs. Spidey fights, most all of them are positively riddled with PIS, regardless of who the winner was.
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Stop using past events you don't like? Wow, that shows that you can't effectivly deal with an argument if the best you can come up with is
"Stop it! I don't like it!"
I'm sorry but this fight is a non-battle. Spiderman out classes Wolverine in speed, agility, strength and intellect. The only thing Wolverine has going him are his senses (which aren't much against Spider sense), his healing factor (big whoop. Even if you survive being knocked unconcious by a man who can bench press toyotas, you still got knocked out) and his fighting skills (heh, like that's going to do any good against someone who is almost 20 times faster than him.) I can't see Logan pull this one.
YAY cresh is back. the debate might get interesting again clap
Originally posted by blind faith
I'm sorry but this fight is a non-battle. Spiderman out classes Wolverine in speed, agility, strength and intellect. The only thing Wolverine has going him are his senses (which aren't much against Spider sense), his healing factor (big whoop. Even if you survive being knocked unconcious by a man who can bench press toyotas, you still got knocked out) and his fighting skills (heh, like that's going to do any good against someone who is almost 20 times faster than him.) I can't see Logan pull this one.
I agree ✅
Originally posted by Creshosk
You're right, the claws will help with the being webbed up thing and the mutant regenerative factor will help out sith the whole getting knocked out thing.
LOL his healing factor is a moot piece for keeping him awake in a fight he has been knocked out by a single shotgun blast in the past.
What good is stamina when Spiderman can control the pace of the fight for himself....................................if he gets fatigued jump to higher ground Wolverine isn't getting to him anytime soon.
Wolverine is a castle in combat.................................Spiderman is much more like a Queen. Yes a castle can beat a Queen its just the Queen has many more possible moves to take out the castle.
Originally posted by soleran30So we're going on the lesser occuring events rather than the majority of events?
LOL his healing factor is a moot piece for keeping him awake in a fight he has been knocked out by a single shotgun blast in the past.
Am I allowed to do that as well, or are you claiming exclusive rights in a hypocritical situation.
Cause I was measuring them at higher standings than the petty quibbling that arises from singlemindedly portraying the opponent as weaker than my character. But hey if you feel it's neceisery to down play your opponent to win your arguments must not have conviction.
Originally posted by soleran30Oh, and so now we're giving him the environmental advantage to?
What good is stamina when Spiderman can control the pace of the fight for himself....................................if he gets fatigued jump to higher ground Wolverine isn't getting to him anytime soon.
Could always go with the BFR rule here. So he's going to leave the battlefield to recover? thebn he's going to forfeit. Nice.
Originally posted by soleran30I'd say he's a bit more of a knight than a rook, since I tend to see the bricks as the rooks and the martial artists as the knights. But hey all you managed to say with your metaphor is "Spiderman is more versitile." Which doesn't do him much good if that versitility doesn't help him.
Wolverine is a castle in combat.................................Spiderman is much more like a Queen. Yes a castle can beat a Queen its just the Queen has many more possible moves to take out the castle.
"Hey Wolverine has hyperkeen animal senses, so would have a much easier time tracking an animal in a dark forest than Spiderman would."
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So what? That's not going to help him in a one on one fight, now is it?
Originally posted by Creshosk
Oh, and so now we're giving him the environmental advantage to?
Could always go with the BFR rule here. So he's going to leave the battlefield to recover? thebn he's going to forfeit. Nice.
If it as a featureless environment spidey can still win easily by repeatedly slamming Logan into the floor with a web line. Unless the floor is too much of an environmental advantage for spidey? 😉
Originally posted by willRulesAnd he'd be able to pull off more force this way than just be punching the bastard? Doubtful.
If it as a featureless environment spidey can still win easily by repeatedly slamming Logan into the floor with a web line. /
And he can do this and acheive more force than the blows he's taken in the past? Doubtful.
Originally posted by willRulesSarcasm noted. Ineffective, but noted none the less.
Unless the floor is too much of an environmental advantage for spidey? 😉
Originally posted by Creshosk
So we're going on the lesser occuring events rather than the majority of events?Am I allowed to do that as well, or are you claiming exclusive rights in a hypocritical situation.
Oh, and so now we're giving him the environmental advantage to?
Could always go with the BFR rule here. So he's going to leave the battlefield to recover? thebn he's going to forfeit. Nice.
The reason I made a chess analogy for you is all I am hearing from Wolverine folks is linear.............................flat................oh yeah yes Wolveirne and Spiderman will ALWAYS only fight on a HUGE plain with nothing for Spiderman to use........................whatever.
The Queen isn't just the most versatile but also the most powerful.................versatility does give you a win when used in conjucntion with its power.
Spiderman can just jump into a Tree or a Rock or anything out of logans reach that makes him difficult to reach........................Spiderman controls the pace of this match. Wolverine has to bring the fight to him. Spiderman's versatility, strength, speed webs is WAY more then needed to take the castle down....................yes he's a castle 1 trick pony he can be powerful but he is limited none the less.
Originally posted by soleran30
The reason I made a chess analogy for you is all I am hearing from Wolverine folks is linear.............................flat................oh yeah yes Wolveirne and Spiderman will ALWAYS only fight on a HUGE plain with nothing for Spiderman to use........................whatever.The Queen isn't just the most versatile but also the most powerful.................versatility does give you a win when used in conjucntion with its power.
Spiderman can just jump into a Tree or a Rock or anything out of logans reach that makes him difficult to reach........................Spiderman controls the pace of this match. Wolverine has to bring the fight to him. Spiderman's versatility, strength, speed webs is WAY more then needed to take the castle down....................yes he's a castle 1 trick pony he can be powerful but he is limited none the less.
But don't forget soleran, he can run 500mph! 😆
Originally posted by soleran30Stupid Wolverine fans! How dare they adhere to KMC rules! How dare they not allow the rules to be bent for spiderman! How DARE they!
The reason I made a chess analogy for you is all I am hearing from Wolverine folks is linear.............................flat................oh yeah yes Wolveirne and Spiderman will ALWAYS only fight on a HUGE plain with nothing for Spiderman to use........................whatever.
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I hope you got the point of the sarcasm.
Originally posted by soleran30only if used effectively.
The Queen isn't just the most versatile but also the most powerful.................versatility does give you a win when used in conjucntion with its power.
Little chess excersize for you.
set up a board with just a knight and a queen so that neither is going to take the other.
Take turns moving them to try and take the other one.
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The queens power and versitility are pretty damned useless when they cannot be applied effectively huh?
Originally posted by soleran30Well, let's bend the rules for spiderman! I don't care what they say.
Spiderman can just jump into a Tree or a Rock or anything out of logans reach that makes him difficult to
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No? I just love how Spiderman has whatever he needs. Whenever he needs it. But hey that's spiderman for you. . . oh wait, that's his fans for you. It should be important not to displace irritation onto the character.
Originally posted by soleran30Wouldn't that be like the superstrength invulnerability thing?
reach........................Spiderman controls the pace of this match. Wolverine has to bring the fight to him. Spiderman's versatility, strength, speed webs is WAY more then needed to take the castle down....................yes he's a castle 1 trick pony he can be powerful but he is limited none the less.
Oh wait your displacing your irritation at me punching holes in your analogy to attack the character again.
Bravo for being able to keep control of your emotions. . . yeah that was sarcasm too. hope you didn't miss it's point.
Originally posted by soleran30Oh, now your taking out your irritation at a different poster out on me.
And can lift 2 tons! and cut through anything (cuz I mean his strength allows him 2.) LOLHe's a good character just gets silly
You really should take care of your psychological baggage. Lest you develop deeper into the wolverine spite syndrome.
Originally posted by Creshosk
Stupid Wolverine fans! How dare they adhere to KMC rules! How dare they not allow the rules to be bent for spiderman! How DARE they!
I hope you got the point of the sarcasm.
only if used effectively.
Little chess excersize for you.
set up a board with just a knight and a queen so that neither is going to take the other.
Take turns moving them to try and take the other one.
The queens power and versitility are pretty damned useless when they cannot be applied effectively huh?
Well, let's bend the rules for spiderman! I don't care what they say....
No? I just love how Spiderman has whatever he needs. Whenever he needs it. But hey that's spiderman for you. . . oh wait, that's his fans for you. It should be important not to displace irritation onto the character.
Wouldn't that be like the superstrength invulnerability thing?
Oh wait your displacing your irritation at me punching holes in your analogy to attack the character again.
Bravo for being able to keep control of your emotions. . . yeah that was sarcasm too. hope you didn't miss it's point.
Hey I don't need to hide behind veils of sarcasm that seems to be your tool, I am not frustrated............it would seem you are.
Your chess exercise just helped to illustrate how absolute in your discussion you remain......................linear....................
LOL whats a BFR jumping 25 feet above Wolverine on a building, tree, rock, parking garage etc etc whatever thats certainly not BFR and not much Wolverine can do about it.
All you did with my simple analogy was contort it certainly didn't punch a hole through it, but if you feel better about that then hey..........tell me how Wolverine isn't a one trick pony in a fight.................
LOL Batdude123 and I have chatted and joked about discussions like this in the past there isn't frustration just humuor, change your glasses your seeing everything a little fuzzy.
Originally posted by soleran30So you deny your usage of sarcasm?
Hey I don't need to hide behind veils of sarcasm that seems to be your tool, I am not frustrated............it would seem you are.
Originally posted by soleran30
And can lift 2 tons! and cut through anything (cuz I mean his strength allows him 2.) LOL
Originally posted by soleran30Which in turn shows you how ineffective your arguments are.
Your chess exercise just helped to illustrate how absolute in your discussion you remain......................linear....................
Originally posted by soleran30Since there are none. that's not much of a problem. Oh right I keep forgetting that I'm not supposed to follow the rules when arguing against spiderman, I'm supposed to allow him to do whatever he wants, when he wants, because the Spiderman supporters have cornered the market on hypocracy.
LOL whats a BFR jumping 25 feet above Wolverine on a building, tree, rock, parking garage etc etc whatever thats certainly not BFR and not much Wolverine can do about it.
Originally posted by soleran30Explain to me how he's less versitile than a brick.
All you did with my simple analogy was contort it certainly didn't punch a hole through it,/[quote] denial is an ugly thing.[QUOTE=6275120]Originally posted by soleran30
but if you feel better about that then hey..........tell me how Wolverine isn't a one trick pony in a fight.................
Originally posted by soleran30No, I'm seeing things clearly. Your eyes are masked by malice and hatred toward some of the more extreme wolverine fans. Tell me if that weren't so what was the basis of this:
LOL Batdude123 and I have chatted and joked about discussions like this in the past there isn't frustration just humuor, change your glasses your seeing everything a little fuzzy.
Originally posted by soleran30
And can lift 2 tons! and cut through anything (cuz I mean his strength allows him 2.) LOL
Where did it come from? This joke is mocking arguments made by a certain wolverine supporter. if it's not then you must have just come up with it... So why then would you be making fun of wolverine?
Don't try to insult me by lieing to me again.
