Originally posted by who?-kidI like to argue for the truth...
Do I know you ? Oh yeah, the guy who likes to argue about everything, even about the obvious.
And would you look at that I did it again, neither side is any closer to victory than when you last left unless you're indirectly supporting wolverine's win over lobo by supporting the fanbased voting to determine who wins... Are you indirectly supporting Wolverine's win versus lobo?
Because saying that an answer is the right one because its the popular opinion is just assinine. 😉
Originally posted by marvelprinceSimply because he'd outlast spiderman. That's it. Until that point Wolverine isn't fast enough without a lucky shot to put Spiderman down, and for all Spiderman's strength and speed can't hurt wolverine's durability.
Out of curiousity creshosk, why exactly do you think that Wolverine would win?
I don't see Wolverine as plowing over Spiderman or totally thrashing him or anything like that.
Originally posted by marvelprinceIt depends on the situation. But outside of business and marketing it's not a good idea to do something just because it's popular.
And in every situation its not assinine to go along with popular opinion. Granted they are not always right but for the most part if most persons agree on a particular point it should at least make you wonder why
Inside business and marketing popularity is king.
I agree its not an easy fight, but due to the many ways Wolverine's been taken down in the past I don't think its a stretch for Spider-Man to beat him. Daredevil took him out with a punch to the throat, Spider-Man is faster and stronger than DD so that'll be easy enough to accomplish. What about in Marvel Team-Up where Spider-Man just webbed his fist to his head and left him hanging there? Wolverine isn't physically strong enough to break the web so in that instance there isn't much he can do
Originally posted by marvelprinceSo the low end showing of aiblity once again over ride the majortiy of showings.
I agree its not an easy fight, but due to the many ways Wolverine's been taken down in the past I don't think its a stretch for Spider-Man to beat him. Daredevil took him out with a punch to the throat, Spider-Man is faster and stronger than DD so that'll be easy enough to accomplish.
Plus that's a skill thing... something that Spiderman probably wouldn't think of.
Originally posted by marvelprinceOther than the fact that that's the most popular "webbed up" picture to show of wolverine, and has been covered in length that Wolverine was trying to talk to Spiderman not fight him at the time, hence why the claws were retracted... and the fact that he got out of that...
What about in Marvel Team-Up where Spider-Man just webbed his fist to his head and left him hanging there? Wolverine isn't physically strong enough to break the web so in that instance there isn't much he can do
So I've still seen nothing to suggest that Spiderman's enhanced metabolism will outlast Wolverine's mutant healing factor stamina.
Originally posted by Soleranit was a local bakery that I frequented and became friendly with the owner... I frequented it with my Spiderman T-shirts so they figured out that I liked Spiderman and made those ones. sadly they went out of business and were replaced by a thrift store. . .
Yes and I truly want to know where in the heck you got spiderman donuts jelly filled still!
So basically your entire agrument is that "Spider-Man will not be able to stop Wolverine so when he gets tired Wolverine wins"? You may think I'm using Wolverine's worst showing, but he's been taken out by even less. Punisher has beaten him and so has Elecktra. I honestly see nothing in Wolverine's other showings that prove he is a match for Spider-Man. So he's survived bombs, he can be knocked out though. So he can survive a slew of bullets, he's not strong enough to break out of web. So he can heal from being virtually on the surface of the Sun, he can still pass out if derived of oxygen for a while.
You merely look at this from a who-can-outlast-who standpoint. Something like that would work if both had similar abilities. But Spider-Man is many times faster and stronger so the fight probably wouldn't last enough to go that route
Originally posted by marvelprince
So basically your entire agrument is that "Spider-Man will not be able to stop Wolverine so when he gets tired Wolverine wins"? You may think I'm using Wolverine's worst showing, but he's been taken out by even less. Punisher has beaten him and so has Elecktra. I honestly see nothing in Wolverine's other showings that prove he is a match for Spider-Man. So he's survived bombs, he can be knocked out though. So he can survive a slew of bullets, he's not strong enough to break out of web. So he can heal from being virtually on the surface of the Sun, he can still pass out if derived of oxygen for a while.You merely look at this from a who-can-outlast-who standpoint. Something like that would work if both had similar abilities. But Spider-Man is many times faster and stronger so the fight probably wouldn't last enough to go that route
just remember low showings for make sure you remember low showings for the other🙂
I prefer scenario fights because thats really where spiderman can shine, one on one a mistake ends it if its simply h2h.
Originally posted by marvelprinceI've seen nothing from Wolverine's encounters with spiderman that would suggest otherwise.
So basically your entire agrument is that "Spider-Man will not be able to stop Wolverine so when he gets tired Wolverine wins"? You may think I'm using Wolverine's worst showing, but he's been taken out by even less. Punisher has beaten him and so has Elecktra. I honestly see nothing in Wolverine's other showings that prove he is a match for Spider-Man. So he's survived bombs, he can be knocked out though. So he can survive a slew of bullets, he's not strong enough to break out of web. So he can heal from being virtually on the surface of the Sun, he can still pass out if derived of oxygen for a while.You merely look at this from a who-can-outlast-who standpoint. Something like that would work if both had similar abilities. But Spider-Man is many times faster and stronger so the fight probably wouldn't last enough to go that route
Spiderman isn't punisher, or Elektra or anyone else who has succeeded where Spiderman has failed.
But Spiderman has failed to knock Wolverine out any time that Spiderman has struck Wolverine.
So I see no reason why he would be able to accomplish now what he has never been able to do in the past.
But yeah, basically my argument is "If they had the same stamina then it'd be a draw since neither cahracter can reasonably put the other down, until the characters start to get tired. then they slow down closing the speed gap."
What's Spiderman going to do? Punch Wolverine? He's tried that, it's never worked.
Web him up? That hasn't worked either.
All the speed and strength means nothing if it doesn't do him any good.