Originally posted by Metalmanx
...You clearly did not heed my advice. Try again. This time, do that little thing called "thinking" and comprehend my previous post a bit more. Then reply.
Dude you are just banging your head on a brickwall, Capt and Masterbruce are taking things out of context in how you illustrated the webbing and Wolverine.
Anyone with two brain cells functioning can understand what you are looking to illustrate without taking things out of context.
Originally posted by Metalmanx
Spider is both stronger and faster than Wolverine. It's well within his ability to kick Logan hard enough so that he has no time to flip.
Indeed the simple answer for Wolverine not countering is Spiderman was too fast.
The picture is kind of drawn weird though. For the landing to make sense I imagine Spidey hit him in the face so hard that he forced Wolverine to backspin into the air. The only problem is the short distance for the spin.
More importantly: How can someone not suspend belief for the iffy comic physics behind a blow for a character who held an elevator up by the cable with his gloved hand. There are a lot of things I find silly in comics, like how all giant brick characters have their goods tucked away so well that they can wear little undies, but the elevator thing is in the top tier.
Originally posted by masterbruce
hmmm, except that it's NEVER EVER happened in 616.Now ask yourself, why is that?
Obviously, they can't have Logan killing off their cash cow, but why never have Spiderman use one of his (according to you) common abilities against wolverine in a straight up fight?
answer me that.
Originally posted by masterbruce
Why has Spiderman never webbed Wolverine in a headon fight against Wolverine?How can you explain this HUGE discrepancy (considering webbing is one of Spiderman's main arsenal in every fight, unlike say Thor's godblast)
Originally posted by masterbruce
Why has Spiderman never webbed Wolverine in a headon fight against Wolverine?How can you explain this HUGE discrepancy (considering webbing is one of Spiderman's main arsenal in every fight, unlike say Thor's godblast)
Because if he did, then well, Wolveirne would be webbed up. 😐
As much as I avoid declaring it, the writing and plots are pretty much the only reasons for why Spider-Man hasn't webbed Wolverine up in a head-on fight. Any further plot involving Wolverine would come to a screeching halt, as he would be stuck to a wall or other environmental feature.
Originally posted by Soleran
Dude you are just banging your head on a brickwall, Capt and Masterbruce are taking things out of context in how you illustrated the webbing and Wolverine.Anyone with two brain cells functioning can understand what you are looking to illustrate without taking things out of context.
At least it's clear that I'm not completely wasting my time here. Thanks, Soleran. 👆
Originally posted by masterbruce
see, the evidence is against your claim.The fact that spiderman never webs wolverine in their fights tends to suggest that webbing won't work against someone with razor sharp claws.
But if you dismiss that as PIS, then I don't think there's anything else I can say.
OH DEAR LORD!
The fact Spiderman doesn't web Wolverine simply indicates the writer of the comic doesn't want to end the fight that way.
On the forum here instead we look at a situation and say "could Spiderman possibly web Wolverine up despite plot?" the answer is yes.
Hence despite the fact Spiderman hasn't webbed up Wolverine in every fight doesn't mean he's not capable of webbing up Wolverine.
Why is this so difficult to get through to people, why does it turn into a Wolverine puke fest of stats, I don't know.
😱
Originally posted by masterbruce
see, the evidence is against your claim.The fact that spiderman never webs wolverine in their fights tends to suggest that webbing won't work against someone with razor sharp claws.
But if you dismiss that as PIS, then I don't think there's anything else I can say.
Why don't a lot of characters do a lot of things to Wolverine? Because it would be very short comic if they did.
Why doesn't:
-Cyclops blasted Wolverine with full power everytime they fought?
-Any powerful-enough psychic just shut down his CNS?
-Magneto rip out his adamantium everytime they fight?
-Kitty phase either herself into Wolverine or Wolverine into something everytime they fight?
-Storm fry him with numerious lightning bolts and then create a vaccum around him everytime they fight?
-Etc., etc.
Stop asking dumb questions.
Originally posted by masterbruce
see, the evidence is against your claim.The fact that spiderman never webs wolverine in their fights tends to suggest that webbing won't work against someone with razor sharp claws.
But if you dismiss that as PIS, then I don't think there's anything else I can say.
Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
There's a comic where Spidey webs Wolverine up right off the bat, so you can't say it was really a fight, because Spidey didn't allow it, but Wolverine didn't seem to be able to do anything about it. Everyone always covers for him by saying Wolverine only wanted to talk but that's a poor excuse for not defending himself.
Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
Indeed the simple answer for Wolverine not countering is Spiderman was too fast.The picture is kind of drawn weird though. For the landing to make sense I imagine Spidey hit him in the face so hard that he forced Wolverine to backspin into the air. The only problem is the short distance for the spin.
More importantly: How can someone not suspend belief for the iffy comic physics behind a blow for a character [b]who held an elevator up by the cable with his gloved hand.
There are a lot of things I find silly in comics, like how all giant brick characters have their goods tucked away so well that they can wear little undies, but the elevator thing is in the top tier.Did you ever wonder why Wolverine was on like 8 teams once? You can't pretend like Wolverine is some indie character from an underground comic company that nobody likes. They both rake in the cash and people pay good money to see long, stylish fights with their favorite characters.
There's a comic where Spidey webs Wolverine up right off the bat, so you can't say it was really a fight, because Spidey didn't allow it, but Wolverine didn't seem to be able to do anything about it. Everyone always covers for him by saying Wolverine only wanted to talk but that's a poor excuse for not defending himself. [/B]
Originally posted by masterbrucelet's seee.....BECAUSE HE CAN'T KILL THOSE TWO!
Even though noncannon, Wolverine has been portrayed of killing everyone in the Marvel earth, so it isn't that far of a strecth. If he can kill Mags and Invisible Woman, what makes Ghost Rider so special.
and that's why it's NON-cannon!!!
JESUS H. CHRIST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
GR takes stabs and physical attacks almost every freakin' day, he's NOT going to be put down by pointy claws...
Originally posted by masterbruce
Even though noncannon, Wolverine has been portrayed of killing everyone in the Marvel earth, so it isn't that far of a strecth. If he can kill Mags and Invisible Woman, what makes Ghost Rider so special.
One of the few times I wish Capt were here. He'd never use non-cannon (at least knowingly) stuff as evidence.
That said, it doesn't count. 😉