Originally posted by capt it upWolverine was webbed with his arms in such a way he wouldnt be able to use his claws how could pulling on the webbing make his claws effective...
Lets see training session is cannon. what happen in a what if is not cannon. also there really was no mistake in the art in the trainign session he cut it with his claws after pulling the webbing tightly
Originally posted by Sparkz
Wolverine was webbed with his arms in such a way he wouldnt be able to use his claws how could pulling on the webbing make his claws effective...
Originally posted by capt it up
logan a guy who stabb easily through 100 classer having trouble stabbing all the way through spiderman? Not to mention if logan was not holding back would he had no simply killed spiderman with a second attack?
No I mean the fact that he was to far away to push his claws all the way in, as in his reach was ineffecient not that he couldnt push them in.
I didn't say Logan was looking to kill Spider-man, but it is still a potentianly fatal attack, you wouldn't knowigly use a potentialy fatal attack in a sparring session if you were holding back, its like Iron Man using a full powerd blast that could sip Spidey in hald saying "Well he should dodge it so it'll be ok" what if Spidey dosen't and it kills him, not exactly a good way to train is it.
"Ok people you may die in this training session so make sure you dodge all attacks!"
Originally posted by capt it up
webbing is night tight it has slack. also what you mean he was webbed in a way he could not get out? he did get out and extremely fast.
Lets leave PIS to PIS and not even go there with the webbing.
It's held far stronger folks then Wolverine and Spiderman has webbed far faster folks then Wolverine.
Spiderman wins via webbing 7/10
Originally posted by capt it up
webbing is night tight it has slack. also what you mean he was webbed in a way he could not get out? he did get out and extremely fast.
As in his arms were webbed up tight to the wall and most of his chest I couldn't see anyway of wolverine breaking out of that, obviously the artist drew it wrong but Wolverine should not have pulled his way out of that.
But anyway all i was getting at with that was shouldnt quibble over little things like that artwork because the artist may have got the wrong idea of what the writer wanted.
Originally posted by Soleran
Lets leave PIS to PIS and not even go there with the webbing.It's held far stronger folks then Wolverine and Spiderman has webbed far faster folks then Wolverine.
Spiderman wins via webbing 7/10
Wouldnt call it PIS more of a plot device so ethan could use his healing powers on Spidey, I just think the artist drew it wrong is all.
Originally posted by Sparkz
No I mean the fact that he was to far away to push his claws all the way in, as in his reach was ineffecient not that he couldnt push them in.I didn't say Logan was looking to kill Spider-man, but it is still a potentianly fatal attack, you wouldn't knowigly use a potentialy fatal attack in a sparring session if you were holding back, its like Iron Man using a full powerd blast that could sip Spidey in hald saying "Well he should dodge it so it'll be ok" what if Spidey dosen't and it kills him, not exactly a good way to train is it.
"Ok people you may die in this training session so make sure you dodge all attacks!"
Originally posted by Soleran
Lets leave PIS to PIS and not even go there with the webbing.It's held far stronger folks then Wolverine and Spiderman has webbed far faster folks then Wolverine.
Spiderman wins via webbing 7/10
Originally posted by Sparkz
As in his arms were webbed up tight to the wall and most of his chest I couldn't see anyway of wolverine breaking out of that, obviously the artist drew it wrong but Wolverine should not have pulled his way out of that.But anyway all i was getting at with that was shouldnt quibble over little things like that artwork because the artist may have got the wrong idea of what the writer wanted.
Ya and you should not try and use non cannon sources.
Originally posted by Sparkz
I wasn't using that as a source I'm just saying why are you aloud to quibble about the art but Spider-man fans aren't?
also you guys really have nothing to say. the art was from a spiderman comic. WE don't even know how strong his organic webbing is and we know it has slack which means logans could have pulled it enough to cut it.
Originally posted by capt it up
yes you would actaully. x-men dangeroom sessions put them in danger of dieing ever time they stepp in the sessions. Logan was holding back he aimed for a big area on purpose because spiderman could not dodge it and I think logans anger cause him to put his claws in a lot deeper then he ment to. also the area logan aimed for was not a vital organs area. If logan ment to cause real damage he would of hit a vital organ. also so is logan not allowed to use hsi calws, but spidermans allows to use his webbing? Not really fair now is it. logan claws no matter what are a risk to use in a training session yet he been doing it since joining the x-men.
Granted thats true, but Wolverine could use his claws to affect the enviorment such as Spideys webbing or whatever but he realy shoulnt try and gut Spider-man. And wolverine was aiming for his gut, than can cause you to loose a hell of alot of blood very fast now can't it.
And yes there is always a danger of dieing but you don't inteionaly do something that could kill your fellow team member do you.
Originally posted by capt it up
like who? how was iot PIS becuase you disliked what happen? also when has he held some with logan reflexes and skills? How he supose to webb logan when lgoan can simply dodge and cut the webbing?
He's webbed up Lizard, hell he's shot webbing down lizards throat before in combat.
Also in regards to the webbing, we know it can hold logan as evidence to Spiderman stringing him up in a previous engagement.
I am referring to the fact in the sparring session logan was webbed and it appear that he simply "broke" out of the webbing without cutting it, that is PIS in regards to how his webbing works.
Originally posted by capt it up
it was not cannon and they were trying to use it and ask me what my problem was with it and I said aside from it not being cannon it really makes no senses the way it is drawn.also you guys really have nothing to say. the art was from a spiderman comic. WE don't even know how strong his organic webbing is and we know it has slack which means logans could have pulled it enough to cut it.
How was it slack Wolverine was tight against the wall, and so far there has been no evidence to say the organic webbing is weaker than his artifical webbing.
And whats the fact it was in a spidey comic have to do with anything, it wasn't even a regular Spidey artist...or at least I'v never seen him draw spidey before, or after for that fact.
Originally posted by Sparkz
Granted thats true, but Wolverine could use his claws to affect the enviorment such as Spideys webbing or whatever but he realy shoulnt try and gut Spider-man. And wolverine was aiming for his gut, than can cause you to loose a hell of alot of blood very fast now can't it.And yes there is always a danger of dieing but you don't inteionaly do something that could kill your fellow team member do you.
If lgoan ment to gut spiderman, spiderman would be gutted. the attack was held back he got angery and cause more damage then he ment how ever it was still a held back attack. also if logan does when he normally does when training he just lightly scratches people which mean it a lot easier for a person to dodge some thing like that. Vs spiderman that not overly fair thing for wolverine while spiderman will not be holding abck at all sicne logan can and has taken spdiermans best shots.
Originally posted by capt it up
If lgoan ment to gut spiderman, spiderman would be gutted. the attack was held back he got angery and cause more damage then he ment how ever it was still a held back attack. also if logan does when he normally does when training he just lightly scratches people which mean it a lot easier for a person to dodge some thing like that. Vs spiderman that not overly fair thing for wolverine while spiderman will not be holding abck at all sicne logan can and has taken spdiermans best shots.
that attack wasnt exactly a scratch though was it? I mean Spidey passed out from blood loss (granted some of that was due to his evolving at the time) but a little scratch dosn't make you loose that much blood does it.
Originally posted by Soleran
He's webbed up Lizard, he'll he's shot webbing down lizards throat before in combat.Also in regards to the webbing, we know it can hold logan as evidence to Spiderman stringing him up in a previous engagement.
I am referring to the fact in the sparring session logan was webbed and it appear that he simply "broke" out of the webbing without cutting it, that is PIS in regards to how his webbing works.
lizard is not logan nor does he have logans skills or weapons.
ya spiderman webbed a talkign wolverine and do you remeber what logan stated? he said he had no leverage. If logan had leverage he him self seem to think he could get out.
how is it PIS? webbing has slack yes it can apeare as it has some one tightly how ever if I person tuggs strong enough it has enough slack for a person to move which clearly logan did. also there was no much webbing on logan so how do we know he could not have broken it with pure strength. this new webbing was never stated to be any certain level of strength
Originally posted by Sparkz
that attack wasnt exactly a scratch though was it? I mean Spidey passed out from blood loss (granted some of that was due to his evolving at the time) but a little scratch dosn't make you loose that much blood does it.
Stop, just stop. Lizard has enhanced reflex's and speed if Spiderman can shoot webbing down the lizards throat in combat he can hit any shot on Logan regardless of how much you want to carry on.
Which regardless you will carry on and ramble, it's been proven Spiderman can and has hit Wolverine with webbing however on the forum he finish's the job and doesn't let Logan out, the end.
Originally posted by capt it up
I don't think you understood me. logan uses scratchs vs other, but vs spiderman that not really a good option since it jsut so much easier to dodge. how ever logan clearly ment to slightly stabb spiderman enough so he feel it and his anger got in the way. rember he said tag your it. clearly he ment only to tagg him not stabb him.
Good point, I suppose they were both holding back but that makes Logans form of attack far more effective than Spider-man's defense, that could also explain why Spidey realy didn't pour on the webbing so Logan wouldnt have been stuck there for 24 hours (the organic webbing takes 24 hours to dissolve I think)